Spartman Posted November 24 Share Posted November 24 2 hours ago, bowtie` said: I knew we were going to have to pay for all those sunny warm days. Hazards of living close to those pesky Lakes. Once the inversion gets set in the area, it almost takes an act of God to break down the inversion. Most of the week the forecast was for Sun on Sunday. Now today it has been downgraded to mostly cloudy. My bet is for the inversion to hold the upper hand. Probably another reason is the upcoming solid mid-to-high cloud cover later tonight. This weekend's shot, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowtie` Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 On 11/23/2024 at 8:56 PM, bowtie` said: I knew we were going to have to pay for all those sunny warm days. Hazards of living close to those pesky Lakes. Once the inversion gets set in the area, it almost takes an act of God to break down the inversion. Most of the week the forecast was for Sun on Sunday. Now today it has been downgraded to mostly cloudy. My bet is for the inversion to hold the upper hand. Goes to show you how much I know about weather, squat. This afternoon between noon and three the Sun popped out and the inversion was blasted away. So happy I could be so wrong. Looked and felt pretty outside after a week of dull gray (grey). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIllinoisSnow Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 Man it’s gonna be brutal getting all of this cold air into the Central/Eastern US just to have zero snow to show for it (at least where I live), what’s new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torchageddon Posted November 25 Share Posted November 25 I sporadically visit the TWN now since the demise of their desktop layout, and the accuracy for my locale. Instead of looking at 7, 14 day I just ask their own version of AI Assistant what the highest max temp is going to be here, around 4 days ago it spit out that today Monday the 25th would be at a near record of 15C! Wow I thought how so? When I looked at the mid-levels and saw nothing unusual. I found out yesterday it was only going to be 5C from them and other sources lol I ask the AI prompt again last night and it puked out the same BS of 15C for today! Best of all, I tried on a diff system in case browser cache was bungling things up just a few mins ago and now it gives me: Quote The highest temperature in Listowel, Ontario, during the next 14 days is expected to be 17 degrees on Monday, November 25, 2024. Enjoy the warmth while it lasts! That's not in F. The main reason for me visiting TWN now is comic relief. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 here are some rouge waves for Roguewaves 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted November 27 Share Posted November 27 Building the cold fail This run of cad it before early spring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted November 28 Share Posted November 28 15 hours ago, A-L-E-K said: Building the cold fail This run of cad it before early spring? It was cold and very snowy even in S Europe not too long ago. They're riding the same temp's regime coaster we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted November 28 Share Posted November 28 21 hours ago, Chinook said: here are some rouge waves for Roguewaves Thx! Interesting colors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 28 Share Posted November 28 12 minutes ago, RogueWaves said: It was cold and very snowy even in S Europe not too long ago. They're riding the same temp's regime coaster we are. And long range ensembles show the warmth eroding up there too. Nothing to worry about for winter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted November 28 Share Posted November 28 Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted November 28 Share Posted November 28 2 hours ago, hawkeye_wx said: Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Yeah December is a throwaway month anymore. Guess we'll wait till January per usual. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 Detroit avgs 10 inches per December. I wonder when's the last time it eclipsed that? @michsnowfreak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 2 hours ago, Stevo6899 said: Detroit avgs 10 inches per December. I wonder when's the last time it eclipsed that? @michsnowfreak Detroit avg for December is 8.9". Long term avg is closer to 10", but recent years have trended Dec snowfall down and Jan/Feb up. So the last time Detroit technically eclipsed avg was Dec 2020 with 9.6", but the last time of 10+ was Dec 2017 with 22.5". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo6899 Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 4 hours ago, michsnowfreak said: Detroit avg for December is 8.9". Long term avg is closer to 10", but recent years have trended Dec snowfall down and Jan/Feb up. So the last time Detroit technically eclipsed avg was Dec 2020 with 9.6", but the last time of 10+ was Dec 2017 with 22.5". Thanks for the info. 6 years is definitely too long. Hopefully this December we can get 10+. Also it's gonna be awhile before we break the daily Nov snow record of 9" in detroit that was set back in 2019, mby got 11 with that veterans day storm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIllinoisSnow Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 Ive been wondering about this for the past day or so and am curious if anyone in Northern Michigan or who knows the area could help me figure this out. I am currently on a little vacation for Thanksgiving in Harbor Springs, Michigan (got here Wed and leaving Sun morning). I was excited for lake effect snow as I am from Central IL and have never experienced it before but we have almost completely missed out on the main LES band by just 5-10 miles and have struggled to get more than a half inch or so. My main question is if this is typical for this specific location, or just bad luck this time? And also wondered if the bands could shift at all between now and Sat Night. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frog Town Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 1 hour ago, CIllinoisSnow said: Ive been wondering about this for the past day or so and am curious if anyone in Northern Michigan or who knows the area could help me figure this out. I am currently on a little vacation for Thanksgiving in Harbor Springs, Michigan (got here Wed and leaving Sun morning). I was excited for lake effect snow as I am from Central IL and have never experienced it before but we have almost completely missed out on the main LES band by just 5-10 miles and have struggled to get more than a half inch or so. My main question is if this is typical for this specific location, or just bad luck this time? And also wondered if the bands could shift at all between now and Sat Night. Thanks You need to get to the highlands from Boyne down to Gaylord/Grayling. You typically don't get much right on the coastal areas like Harbor Springs Charlevoix... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIllinoisSnow Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 14 minutes ago, Frog Town said: You need to get to the highlands from Boyne down to Gaylord/Grayling. You typically don't get much right on the coastal areas like Harbor Springs Charlevoix... I figured that was a part of the problem, I may have to drive south a few miles tomorrow and see if I can check some of it out to experience it for a bit, thanks for the response I will say, the drive down US-131 on the way back will be interesting though lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 1 hour ago, CIllinoisSnow said: I figured that was a part of the problem, I may have to drive south a few miles tomorrow and see if I can check some of it out to experience it for a bit, thanks for the response I will say, the drive down US-131 on the way back will be interesting though lol He's both right and wrong. On this event you want to get inland (due to early season lake warmth) and the better elevations offer the best lift. Harbor Springs/Petoskey does well on a SW flow event, more so if the lake warmth isn't so strong that it forces the streamers to dump further inland. See Dec 2001 as the bench mark when Petoskey scored 84" in that early season historic LES storm. I may check out the Gaylord area tomorrow if I find time. Oh, and getting missed by 5 or less miles. LOL - welcome to LES Edit - and now I see APX's AFD: Lake effect snow lovers around Gaylord and Sault Ste. Marie, take note -- it is hard to draw up as perfect a set up as this, and it does not come around often. Many synoptic similarities described above can be actually be drawn back to the infamous 2001 Petoskey lake effect snow event -- where totals of 80" and unofficial amounts near 100" over a several day span were recorded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny8 Posted November 29 Share Posted November 29 I'm near Grand Rapids for the Thanksgiving weekend and really cashing in on lake effect around here last night and all day today 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyweather Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 Got some snow laid down with a few hours of wet bulb temps of 20 or so, although the wind made it pretty inefficient. All the N. IL and So WI ski areas have been blowing for the past few days. Alpine Valley and Tyrol Basin in WI open tomorrow as well as Sundown in Iowa. Chestnut in IL looks to open next weekend along with Cascade, Devils Head, Granite Peak, and Wilmot in WI. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted November 30 Share Posted November 30 16 hours ago, RogueWaves said: He's both right and wrong. On this event you want to get inland (due to early season lake warmth) and the better elevations offer the best lift. Harbor Springs/Petoskey does well on a SW flow event, more so if the lake warmth isn't so strong that it forces the streamers to dump further inland. See Dec 2001 as the bench mark when Petoskey scored 84" in that early season historic LES storm. I may check out the Gaylord area tomorrow if I find time. Oh, and getting missed by 5 or less miles. LOL - welcome to LES Edit - and now I see APX's AFD: Lake effect snow lovers around Gaylord and Sault Ste. Marie, take note -- it is hard to draw up as perfect a set up as this, and it does not come around often. Many synoptic similarities described above can be actually be drawn back to the infamous 2001 Petoskey lake effect snow event -- where totals of 80" and unofficial amounts near 100" over a several day span were recorded. It's funny enough seeing the changes around SE MI from place to place. Imagine the snowbelt. Live in Buffalos immediate south suburbs? Enjoy 2 or 3 feet. Live in Buffalos immediate north suburbs? You won't see a flake. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 1 Share Posted December 1 We got smoked here, over 31" in a day, still snowing. Got this clip of thundersnow on my nest cam thundersnow.mp4 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 U know it's bad when klot is soliciting pics of ongoing cad Feel bad for rc and the guys 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocATL Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 Was thinking, if I had a snow machine, I’d be killing it right now with winter scenery. Keep the driveway and walkways clean too! Maybe I can barter my snowblower for one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocATL Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 Also…all this clipper talk is highly overblown. Hoping to go back to that awesome weather we had in early November! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted December 2 Share Posted December 2 8 minutes ago, DocATL said: Also…all this clipper talk is highly overblown. Hoping to go back to that awesome weather we had in early November! Ya, the older I get the more Im starting to like warmth. I dislike back loaded winters as well so losing the first snow month right off the bat stinks haha 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted December 4 Share Posted December 4 I made this map of a storm that happened 50 years ago, with marginal temps, and a cut off low, perfect for pulling some Atlantic moisture back to Detroit 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokomoWX Posted December 5 Share Posted December 5 On 12/3/2024 at 9:24 PM, Chinook said: I made this map of a storm that happened 50 years ago, with marginal temps, and a cut off low, perfect for pulling some Atlantic moisture back to Detroit The 70s were golden years of my youth and great snows. It is too bad we have become snowless tundra these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIllinoisSnow Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 This early season cold with nothing to show for it has me wanting to throw in the towel already Patience is key, but this is giving me flashbacks to the last two winters (which have been terrible here), It also doesn't help that I was spoiled seeing more snow in person than I ever have before in my life driving back from Northern Michigan Sunday LOL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted December 6 Share Posted December 6 On 12/3/2024 at 9:24 PM, Chinook said: I made this map of a storm that happened 50 years ago, with marginal temps, and a cut off low, perfect for pulling some Atlantic moisture back to Detroit That's amazing. Looks like it's the heaviest snow storm on record at Akron, although official snowfall records only go back to 1948 for some reason. Pittsburgh had 14.8" of snow December 1-4, with 14.3" falling from December 1-2. Detroit had 19.5 inches from the 1st to the 3rd, with 18.4" falling on the 1st. Can't really think of any recent storm that has had such a widespread area with over a foot of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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