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I think it may have ingested some dry air off the yucatan landmass as the eyewall got extremely close yesterday evening. As it moves NE and gets into the loop current it will likely have the opportunity to restrengthen today. Kinda scary the HWRF, HMON, and HAFS all zeroed in on TB at 00z tonight...

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155 mph at 5 am EDT with forecast track nudged very slightly north vs. 11 pm; Tampa area still under the gun if center of forecast track verifies, but the track cone is a bit wider than the typical error at 48 hrs (~65 miles), so landfall location is obviously still a bit of a guess.  

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT  08/0900Z 22.3N  88.9W  135 KT 155 MPH
 12H  08/1800Z 22.9N  87.5W  140 KT 160 MPH
 24H  09/0600Z 24.2N  85.8W  135 KT 155 MPH
 36H  09/1800Z 26.0N  84.2W  125 KT 145 MPH
 48H  10/0600Z 27.6N  82.6W  110 KT 125 MPH...NEAR THE COAST
 60H  10/1800Z 28.8N  79.9W   70 KT  80 MPH...OVER WATER
 72H  11/0600Z 29.7N  76.5W   60 KT  70 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
 96H  12/0600Z 30.4N  69.9W   45 KT  50 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H  13/0600Z 31.5N  63.8W   35 KT  40 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP

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19 minutes ago, TPAwx said:

6z GFS over TB and MBY early AM Thursday.  Appears to approach from southern end/Anna Maria Island.  

Very close to 0z GFS, maybe a couple miles further south but not any meaningful change.

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1 hour ago, RU848789 said:

155 mph at 5 am EDT with forecast track nudged very slightly north vs. 11 pm; Tampa area still under the gun if center of forecast track verifies, but the track cone is a bit wider than the typical error at 48 hrs (~65 miles), so landfall location is obviously still a bit of a guess.  

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT  08/0900Z 22.3N  88.9W  135 KT 155 MPH
 12H  08/1800Z 22.9N  87.5W  140 KT 160 MPH
 24H  09/0600Z 24.2N  85.8W  135 KT 155 MPH
 36H  09/1800Z 26.0N  84.2W  125 KT 145 MPH
 48H  10/0600Z 27.6N  82.6W  110 KT 125 MPH...NEAR THE COAST
 60H  10/1800Z 28.8N  79.9W   70 KT  80 MPH...OVER WATER
 72H  11/0600Z 29.7N  76.5W   60 KT  70 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
 96H  12/0600Z 30.4N  69.9W   45 KT  50 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP
120H  13/0600Z 31.5N  63.8W   35 KT  40 MPH...POST-TROP/EXTRATROP

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This is simply due to the angle of approach.

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2 minutes ago, olafminesaw said:

Intense convection wrapping around the new eye

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That is a relatively large eye now...yikes. I wouldn't expect the pressure to come up to much more with that look.....up about 30mb in 12 hours from peak, which is to be expected from an EWRC in a system with a 3.5mi wide eye.

JMO, but I don't think the Yucatan played much if any role in the weakening...it was just about all internally driven.

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That was an incredibly efficient EWRC. I was hoping for the pressure to rise more and the core to look a little more ragged. We’re quickly running out of time for this thing to weaken enough to matter with the surge.

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13 minutes ago, Dunkman said:

That was an incredibly efficient EWRC. I was hoping for the pressure to rise more and the core to look a little more ragged. We’re quickly running out of time for this thing to weaken enough to matter with the surge.

I think a 30mb rise in 12 hours is pretty steep....about the best one can hope for given how pristine the antecedent structure was, as others have mentioned. However, it was so intense to begin with that this still leaves us with a remarkably intense system, unfortunately....and one that is more expansive and capable of generating deadly surge, as well as a wider envelope of power-disrupting winds.

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Looks like it’s a go for round 2 of intensification. An interesting thing I’ve noticed on some of the hi res models is the strongest winds appear to transfer to the north and western sides of the system as it approaches Florida (sting jet?). While north of track areas would escape the surge, that’s cat 3+ winds showing on that side of the eye. If it goes slightly south of you, you are by no means safe simply because you avoided what will 100000% be a catastrophic surge on the south side. Heed evacuation orders 

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3 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said:

Looks like it’s a go for round 2 of intensification. An interesting thing I’ve noticed on some of the hi res models is the strongest winds appear to transfer to the north and western sides of the system as it approaches Florida (sting jet?). While north of track areas would escape the surge, that’s cat 3+ winds showing on that side of the eye. If it goes slightly south of you, you are by no means safe simply because you avoided what will 100000% be a catastrophic surge on the south side. Heed evacuation orders 

Seeing a pretty definitive trend on guidance to hook this right just prior to LF, which may be a (relative) saving grace for TB in terms of surge.

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Have there been any papers published on the frequency of ERC in major hurricanes? It still has a while before it reaches the Tampa Bay area and I'm wondering if it could undergo one more before hitting.

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A few thoughts this morning. RE: Yucatán playing a role, I agree with @40/70 Benchmark that it did not. Milton's core and RMW is still very small even after its first (perhaps second as one may have occurred prior to the hyper period of RI yesterday morning). With a dominant 12-15nm wide eyewall and spiking eye temps, the old cloud debris of the old eye should be gone in a few more hours, and we will have further reintensification. The pressure is falling again, and I do think Milton will regain Category 5 intensity. It has very favorable conditons with an increasing jet streak today. SSTs are not an issue.

A few more things about the most recent EWRC. 1) At 4-6nm in diameter and at sub-900 mb pressure, with such a micro RMW, any ERC is going to annihilate the pressure to wind gradiant relationship. So I don't think dry air played a role, Milton just needed time for the new, slightly larger vortex to catch up. That seems to be occurring now. 2) Though the RMW did expand back out a bit at 15nm or so, that is still a small core. The stage is set for another impressive bout of low pressure today. I'm not saying it will go sub 900 mb again, but it may flirt with the mid to low 905-910s. Sub 900s isn't unrealistic, however. The very cold cloudtops are a hint at this... 3) For significant RMW expansion and the forecasted large windfield, Milton will need to evolve a much larger eye. This, of course, to expand the large surge threat as is being modeled. There isn't in the way of overly strong outer bands yet, but by tonight, much of the TC models suggest this process will occur and lead to a much larger ERC on Wednesday as Milton crosses the eastern GOM. SSTs and upper atmospheric support will remain condusive for such an evolution of the core to occur.


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929mb and 145mph on the intermediate advisory. In my experience, the storm almost always weakens more than the official forecast during an EWRC. We will see how it rebuilds now that it has completed.

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There is ~100 miles of Florida coastline in the 12’ surge forecast. 

Being on the northern/western eyewall shouldn’t be cause for relief. 

The bulk of the surge is collocated with the min SLP, and is not wind driven. This isn’t unique to Milton. The wind direction matters much more for storm surge impacts when you are 50-100+ miles from the center. 

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Looks like 06z Euro is trending a tad south around Sarasota and 06z GEFS has TB at the far northern end of the ensembles with a bunch betweeen Sarasota and Fort Myers.  Wonder if this southern trend will continue.

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