winterwx21 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Had a low temp of 37 here this morning. The vegetable garden is fine and it will be again tonight as we stay well above freeze level. My pole lima beans are producing like crazy. I don't want a freeze to happen until early November, which looks likely at this point. 80 degrees coming early next week, and no sign of any significant cool shots for late October. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 24 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: Had a low temp of 37 here this morning. The vegetable garden is fine and it will be again tonight as we stay well above freeze level. My pole lima beans are producing like crazy. I don't want a freeze to happen until early November, which looks likely at this point. 80 degrees coming early next week, and no sign of any significant cool shots for late October. It's possible we don't even drop below 45 the rest of the month after Friday. I'm sure the cooler spots will see some low 40s but certainly no frost or freeze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Newark has a shot at its first 4 years in a row with 80° warmth after October 19th. This late season warmth has become a theme every year since 2021. It’s getting a boost this year from a near record 590+DM ridge. Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1947-12-31 87 0 1979-12-31 86 0 1950-12-31 85 0 2023-12-31 84 0 2001-12-31 83 0 1984-12-31 82 0 1978-12-31 82 0 1946-12-31 82 0 2022-12-31 81 0 2017-12-31 81 0 2003-12-31 81 0 1974-12-31 81 0 - 1963-12-31 81 0 2021-12-31 80 0 - 2007-12-31 80 0 - 1993-12-31 80 0 - 1982-12-31 80 0 - 1969-12-31 80 0 - 1961-12-31 80 0 - 1948-12-31 80 0 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 16 hours ago, SACRUS said: Records: Highs: EWR: 86 (1956) NYC: 84 (1956) LGA: 83 (2021) JFK: 82 (1975) Lows: EWR: 32 (1937) NYC: 32 (1876) LGA: 39 (2009) JFK: 37 (1999) Historical: 1880 - A violent early season blizzard raked Minnesota and the Dakotas. Winds gusted to 70 mph at Yankton SD, and snow drifts 10 to 15 feet high were reported in northwest Iowa and southeast South Dakota. Saint Paul MN reported a barometric pressure of 28.65 inches on the 16th. Railroads were blocked by drifts of snow which remained throughout the severe winter to follow. Gales did extensive damage to ship on the Great Lakes. (15th-16th) (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel) 1954 - Hurricane Hazel struck the Carolina coastline. The hurricane demolished every pier along a 170 mile stretch from Myrtle Beach SC to Cedar Island NC, and obliterated entire lines of beach homes. Hurricane Hazel also destroyed 1500 homes as it moved inland with seventeen foot tides. Winds between Myrtle Beach SC and Cape Fear NC gusted to 150 mph. Hurricane Hazel caused 163 million dollars damage, and claimed the lives of 98 persons. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel) 1954: By 11 pm on the 15th, Hurricane Hazel had reached and crossed the waters of Lake Ontario, still sporting sustained winds as high as 60 mph. Hazel took direct aim at the heart of Toronto as it roared past at 49 mph. Toronto saw heavy rainfall before Hurricane Hazel on the 14th. The previous storm, in combination with the hurricane, resulted in significant flooding. 1966 - Iowa experienced its worst late season tornado of record. In just one minute a twister tore through the town of Belmond leveling 75 percent of the businesses, and 100 homes, causing more than eleven million dollars damage. (The Weather Channel) 1984: The Monday Night Football game in Denver, Colorado, was played in a raging blizzard. 15 inches of snow fell with up to 34 inches reported in the nearby mountains. The Air Force Academy canceled classes for the first time in its' recorded history. 1987 - Unseasonably cold weather continued in the eastern U.S., with thirteen cities reporting record low temperatures for the date. The low of 34 degrees at Montgomery AL was their coldest reading of record for so early in the season. Lows of 32 degrees at Harrisburg PA and 34 degrees at Parkersburg WV marked their third straight morning of record cold. (The National Weather Summary) 1988 - The cold high pressure system responsible for the record low temperatures in the eastern U.S. began to move out to sea, giving way to a trend toward "Indian Summer". Thunderstorms developing ahead of a cold front produced golf ball size hail at Altamont KS and hail two inches in diameter at Yates City IL. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary) 1989 - Hurricane Jerry made landfall at Galveston, TX, at 6 30 PM (CDT). Winds at the Galveston Airport reached 75 mph, with gusts to 100 mph. Tides along the island were six to eight feet, and rainfall totals ranged up to slightly more than six inches north of Beaumont. Three persons were killed when their vehicle was blown off the Galveston seawall into the pounding surf. Total damage along the Upper Texas Coast was estimated at fifteen million dollars. Thunderstorms produced severe weather in Lower Michigan during the late morning. Two persons were injured when a tree fell on their camper at the Traverse City State park. While strong northerly winds ushered much colder air into the central U.S., unseasonably warm weather continued in the south central and eastern U.S. The afternoon high of 82 degrees at Bluefield WV was a record for October. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) More on Hazel probably one of the worst hurricanes to hit the east coast of the U.S. At landfall, the hurricane brought a storm surge of over 5.5 m (18 ft) to a large area of coastline, producing severe coastal damage; the damage was greater since the hurricane coincided with the highest lunar tide of the year.[32] Brunswick County, North Carolina, suffered the heaviest damage, where most coastal dwellings were either destroyed or severely damaged. For example, in Long Beach, North Carolina, only five of the 357 buildings were left standing.[29] The official report from the Weather Bureau in Raleigh, North Carolina stated that as a result of Hazel, "all traces of civilization on the immediate waterfront between the state line and Cape Fear were practically annihilated."[33] According to NOAA, "every pier in a distance of 170 miles [270 kilometres] of coastline was demolished" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegan_edible Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 12z runs seem to be backing off how warm we will really get. I'm guessing we see some over-performing numbers but there appears to be a trough moving in the area next Thursday to cool us back down to Autumn temps. Interesting, seems like models are having an increasingly difficult time this fall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 3 minutes ago, vegan_edible said: 12z runs seem to be backing off how warm we will really get. I'm guessing we see some over-performing numbers but there appears to be a trough moving in the area next Thursday to cool us back down to Autumn temps. Interesting, seems like models are having an increasingly difficult time this fall I think upper 70s in the warm spots. Trenton on S if looking for 80 currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Allsnow Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 32 minutes ago, FPizz said: Getting bad No rain on the 12z euro for the rest of the month 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 4 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Getting bad No rain on the 12z euro for the rest of the month Just really impressive to see model cycle after model cycle with little or no precipitation for 10 day periods. Only a trace here (on two days) for the month to date. Just so dry. Will be interesting to see new Drought Monitor release tomorrow. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 If this don't happen to the nyc metro area this winter... https://www.facebook.com/share/r/ipzx5w8pREviutcR/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Ewr made it to 61 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Ct did not break their 24 hour rain total this summer. NWS deemed both reports invalid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 the wind dropped so much dust everywhere 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Records: Highs: EWR: 84 (1958) NYC: 87 (1897) LGA: 82 (1958) JFK: 79 (2008) Lows: EWR: 31 (1944) NYC: 34 (1876) LGA: 39 (2009) LGA: 39 (2006) Historical: 1913 - The temperature in Downtown San Francisco soared to 101 degrees to equal their record for October. (The Weather Channel) 1937 - An unlikely winter-like storm produced as much as ten inches of snow in Minnesota and Iowa. 1944: The 1944 Cuba – Florida hurricane, also known as the Pinar del Rio Hurricane, struck western Cuba on this day as a Category 4. This storm killed an estimated 300 people in Cuba and nine in Florida. This hurricane is currently the 7th costliest U.S. Atlantic hurricane, with an estimated $46.9 billion (2015 USD) in damages. 1987 - Ten cities in the southeastern U.S. reported record low temperatures for the date. The low of 34 degrees at Augusta GA marked their third straight morning of record cold. A cold front brought showers and thunderstorms to parts of the central U.S. Lightning struck a bull and six cows under a tree near Battiest OK. (The National Weather Summary) 1988 - Late afternoon thunderstorms produced severe weather in southwestern Lower Michigan and northern Indiana. One thunderstorm spawned a tornado north of Nappanee IN which caused half a million dollars damage. Six cities in California reported record high temperatures for the date. The afternoon high of 100 degrees at Red Bluff CA was the latest such reading of record for so late in the autumn season. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988: An F2 tornado carved a 6 mile long, east-northeast path through a mostly rural area of north-central Indiana. The extremely slow-moving tornado touched down 1.5 miles north of Nappanee, just 300 yards north of a high school, and shortly after that moved through a subdivision where 11 homes sustained damage. 1989 - Heavy snow blanketed the foothills of Colorado. Up to three inches was reported around Denver. Echo Lake was buried under nineteen inches of snow. Temperatures again warmed into the 80s and lower 90s in the eastern and south central U.S. Thirteen cities reported record high temperatures for the date, including Atlantic City NJ with a reading of 84 degrees. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary) 1999: Hurricane Irene moved across the Florida Keys producing heavy rainfall, strong winds, and high waves. A gust 102 mph was reported in Big Pine Key. 2007: A blinding sandstorm in the high desert north of Los Angeles wreaks havoc with local traffic causing a highway pileup involving dozens of vehicles. Two people die, and 16 are injured as a result of the storm, which reportedly raised dust to 1000 foot high. 2015: A well-defined waterspout was visible from Marquette, Michigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 6 hours ago, TriPol said: What are the analogs of a dry autumn and la nina winter in the northeast? I bet they're not pretty. I think the transition to la nina winters are good. So I have heard guys talk about on here. Something has to click eventually though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalland Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 shades of last winter on the 2 week forecast, with the greatest positive departures over the midwest and central canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalland Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 6 hours ago, TriPol said: What are the analogs of a dry autumn and la nina winter in the northeast? I bet they're not pretty. the 3 best analogs I could find (for a dry 60 period leading up to 10/15 and a La Niña) are 1964 (24.4" snow at KNYC), 1973 (23.5" snow at KNYC) and 1984 (24.1" snow at KNYC). A remarkably average set of years, for snowfall at least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Overnight, low temperatures will again fall into the lower 40s in New York City and 30s outside the City where frost is likely. The mercury will recover to the upper 50s tomorrow and then lower and middle 60s on Friday. The warming trend will continue during the weekend. With a PNA-/AO+ pattern forecast to develop, an above normal temperature regime could last into the closing days of October. The probability of a 60° October mean temperature in New York City has increased to just over 40%. Since 2020, 2021 (62.0°) and 2023 (60.5°) have seen such warmth. Since regular recordkeeping began in 1869, New York City has only seen two consecutive 60° or warmer Octobers on three occasions: 1946-1947, 1949-1950, and 1953-1954. Precipitation in the northern Mid-Atlantic region will likely remain below to much below normal into at least the fourth week of October. The ECMWF ensembles, along with the experimental AIFS and FuXi AI versions continue to show very little precipitation. There is a possibility that October 2024 could see less than 1.00" monthly rainfall in New York City for the first October since 2013 and that Philadelphia could see its second consecutive October with less than 1.00" of rain. As a result, D0 and D1 conditions will likely continue to expand in the region and the pocket of D2 conditions in southern New Jersey will likely grow. The NAO fell to a preliminary -2.751 on September 24th (all-time September record: -2.371, September 12, 1971). That was the 9th lowest value on record. La Niña winters following September cases where the NAO fell to -1.900 or below featured a predominantly positive NAO. The most recent such winters were 2016-2017 and 2022-2023. The mean temperatures for those winters in New York City were 39.3° and 41.0° respectively. The 1991-2020 normal value is 36.2°. A warmer outcome is favored by the October run of the C3S multi-model forecast for Winter 2024-2025. Weekly ENSO data remains unavailable due to the disruptive impact Hurricane Helene's floods had on NCEI in Asheville. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.2°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.5°C for the week centered around September 18. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.20°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.18°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely evolve into a La Niña event during the fall. The SOI was -11.86 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +0.290 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 72% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal October (1991-2020 normal). October will likely finish with a mean temperature near 59.5° (1.6° above normal). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Back to back highs of 62 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 58 my high. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Only 0.40” for September and October (so far) combined, October only at 0.10”, meanwhile March and August saw nearly a foot of rain each. Temps have been overperforming even during this cool spell, forecasted highs in the upper 50’s have meant highs in the low/mid 60’s, I’ve been overdressed the past two days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 48 minutes ago, lee59 said: 58 my high. 58 here as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 26 minutes ago, FPizz said: 58 here as well Same for both my stations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 Highs: EWR: 62 JFK: 62 New Brnswck: 61 ACY: 61 TEB: 61 PHL: 60 BLM: 59 LGA: 59 ISP: 59 TTN: 59 NYC: 59 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 I'm noticing rivers and creaks drying up. Will likely see moderate drought conditions expand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 Currently 46 and I don’t see us dropping into the 30s. Looks like first frost will be in November this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 0z Gfs and Cmc through day 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 The offshore low is forecast to pull down dew points in the 20s this afternoon to further dry things out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatamy Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 32 with widespread frost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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