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9 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

I think they are in for issues with surge. 

On Hillsborough Bay, was last out at noon and water was washing over the seawall in places.  High tide is between 2-3am and expecting high end of the forecast.

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About 129nm north waves are at or above 18 feet,  winds gusting nearly 65mph. 

 

Add insult to injury, high tide is roughly around 100 am , so anyone down there keep in mind that week play a big role in how high tide actually get in all coastal areas

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6 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said:

NHC might be committed now.  Not sure they're gonna make any E moves now, they've sort of layed out the reasoning and might go down with the ship somewhat

I sure hope not - that's not how forecasting is supposed to work. 

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25 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

. . . ...CATASTROPHIC FLOODING AND LANDSLIDES FOR THE MOUNTAINS AND
FOOTHILLS FROM HURRICANE HELENE... This will be one of the most significant weather events to happen in the western portions of the area in the modern era. Record flooding is forecasted and has been compared to the floods of 1916 in the Asheville area. The impacts from this event are expected to be greater than Tropical Storm Fred from August 2021, the mountains in 2004 from Frances and Ivan, and in Upstate South Carolina the Saluda River Basin flooding from 1949. We plead with everyone that you take every single weather warning very seriously through the entirety of this event as impacts will be life- threatening and make sure to have multiple ways to receive the alerts. The protection of life and property is the overall mission of the National Weather Service, and we pledge to stand by the folks of the western Carolinas and northeast Georgia. We cannot stress the significance of this event enough. Heed all evacuation orders from your local Emergency Managers and go to a storm
shelter if you do not feel safe at your current location. Landslides, including fast-moving debris flows consisting of water, mud, falling rocks, trees, and other large debris,
are most likely within small valleys that drain steep slopes. Landslides are powerful and potentially deadly, capable of washing out roads, bridges, and homes. People living in areas prone to landslides should be aware of the danger and

Can i have a link to this?  Family in area and want to make sure they are fully scared and prepared

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29 minutes ago, bigtenfan said:

After Katrina fit South Florida as a strengthening Cat 1 and did a lot of damage JB wrote that a strengthening Cat 1 storm can cause more damage than a weakening Cat 3 storm. He mentioned mixing of upper air winds down to the surface.

Jim Cantore also said at the time that it was the strongest Cat 1 he had ever experienced. 

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Hurricane Helene Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL       AL092024
300 PM EDT Thu Sep 26 2024

...STORM SURGE AND WINDS INCREASING ALONG THE FLORIDA WEST COAST...
...300 PM EDT POSITION UPDATE...

A Weatherflow station at Egmont Channel at the entrance to Tampa 
Bay recently measured a sustained wind of 50 mph (80 km/h) and a 
gust to 62 mph (100 km/h).


SUMMARY OF 300 PM EDT...1900 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...26.9N 84.8W
ABOUT 160 MI...255 KM WSW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
ABOUT 195 MI...315 KM S OF APALACHICOLA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...120 MPH...195 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNE OR 25 DEGREES AT 20 MPH...31 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...959 MB...28.32 INCHES
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1 minute ago, beanskip said:

Allan -- who is a fantastic met -- used a great visual to make the point that has been made here over the last 2 days.

 

https://x.com/RaleighWx/status/1839374056753451138

 

Its wobbled north last 30 mins but it looks like it may go smack between the NHC track and the UKMET.  I am not certain as of now it'll make it over into that clustered region of plots

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Just now, wthrmn654 said:
Hurricane Helene Tropical Cyclone Update
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL       AL092024
300 PM EDT Thu Sep 26 2024

...STORM SURGE AND WINDS INCREASING ALONG THE FLORIDA WEST COAST...
...300 PM EDT POSITION UPDATE...

A Weatherflow station at Egmont Channel at the entrance to Tampa 
Bay recently measured a sustained wind of 50 mph (80 km/h) and a 
gust to 62 mph (100 km/h).


SUMMARY OF 300 PM EDT...1900 UTC...INFORMATION
----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...26.9N 84.8W
ABOUT 160 MI...255 KM WSW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
ABOUT 195 MI...315 KM S OF APALACHICOLA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...120 MPH...195 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NNE OR 25 DEGREES AT 20 MPH...31 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...959 MB...28.32 INCHES

Its not raining yet in Gulfport, FL but the breeze is quite stiff. It feels really good right now on the skin, but we know we are soon to be having a little white-knuckle ride coming up. I think most accept we will lose power by midnight, so preparing for that inside so everything is easy to get to.

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9 minutes ago, Prospero said:

Its not raining yet in Gulfport, FL but the breeze is quite stiff. It feels really good right now on the skin, but we know we are soon to be having a little white-knuckle ride coming up. I think most accept we will lose power by midnight, so preparing for that inside so everything is easy to get to.

The effects other than surge will be a nuisance mostly for the Tampa St Pete metro. You guys get 50-60mph wind gusts from tropical systems plenty. The biggest concern, by far in places like Gulfport and those areas will be the surge. This evening’s high tide could bring a lot of water in that area. 

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It has been quiet all day here in Perry. There has been plenty of heat and humidity but virtually no rain as everything has set up west of here.

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I drove around a bit earlier and the roads have cleared out substantially as stores close and board up. I’m actually surprised that a lot of places haven’t boarded up. 

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If the heading holds, we’re likely to get a big hit. Some of the damage from prior storms still remains. 

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I’m cautiously optimistic about my spot. I’m in a good building with a number of reporters, chasers, and national guard. Of course a lot of locals are here too. 

This is by far the hardest part of a chase: the anxiety of watching every frame of the radar to make sure you’re in the right location. 

Will probably start my pressure trace in an hour or two if the storm heading holds. 

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7 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said:

 

Its wobbled north last 30 mins but it looks like it may go smack between the NHC track and the UKMET.  I am not certain as of now it'll make it over into that clustered region of plots

I agree -- not making enough eastward progress at the moment.

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She's getting stronger! 

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Current Analysis ----- 
     Date :  26 SEP 2024    Time :   191020 UTC
      Lat :   26:49:47 N     Lon :   84:44:23 W

     
                CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
                5.4 / 949.1mb/ 99.6kt

     
             Final T#  Adj T#  Raw T# 
                5.4     6.3     6.3

 Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR :N/A km

 Center Temp :  -8.1C    Cloud Region Temp : -70.8C

 Scene Type : EYE  

 Subtropical Adjustment : OFF 

 Extratropical Adjustment : OFF 

 Positioning Method : ARCHER POSITIONING 

 Ocean Basin : ATLANTIC      
 Dvorak CI > MSLP Conversion Used : CKZ Method  

 Tno/CI Rules : Constraint Limits : NO LIMIT 
                   Weakening Flag : OFF   
           Rapid Dissipation Flag : OFF   

 C/K/Z MSLP Estimate Inputs :
  - Average 34 knot radii :  182nmi
  - Environmental MSLP    : 1007mb

 Satellite Name :  GOES16 
 Satellite Viewing Angle : 33.0 degrees

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2 minutes ago, DDweatherman said:

The efforts other than surge will be a nuisance mostly for the Tampa St Pete metro. You guys get 50-60mph wind gusts from tropical systems plenty. The biggest concern, by far in places like Gulfport and those areas will be the surge. This evening’s high tide could bring a lot of water in that area. 

I have no doubts we will be breaking records tonight with the surge. I've been through enough here to recognize the signs. Downtown Gulfport and areas of Tampa Bay will be inundated beyond what we have seen before. Hopefully our cameras will stay up as long as possible. They stayed up in Idalia and Debbie even when water was inside the locations. But the winds were not that strong and electricity and internet stayed on. Tonight both could go down early.

Our home is at 15ft so we should be OK for this one. There has not been a 15ft storm surge in our area in modern history. But it is always possible...

Debris is already falling into our yard. Hold on! Woohooo! We gotta storm!

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