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28 minutes ago, jdt said:


I assume that is at the Airport which is south of town. Asheville general has lower totals then surrounding areas do to mountains shadowing from multiple directions. We bought property to build on in the future about an hour south of there very close the the SC line and Blue Ridge Escarpment. Totals there can usually be double to triple that of Asheville. Saw a CoCoRaHS report posted earlier today of ~12” near Connesstee Falls which is about 10 minutes from our property.


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Correct! Asheville is the driest part of the state. Just one county south receives the most annual rainfall on average.  I referring to reporting stations

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1 minute ago, beanskip said:

Yeah so Tallahassee went from "the black line is right over my head" to OUT OF THE CONE!

Yeah, yeah, yeah, impacts will be still be great, but can we please have a post-storm discussion about wtf happened here? 

What’s there to discuss?

Storms track in the cone only 2/3 of the time. The NHC doesn’t hide that.

 

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2 minutes ago, beanskip said:

Yeah so Tallahassee went from "the black line is right over my head" to OUT OF THE CONE!

Yeah, yeah, yeah, impacts will be still be great, but can we please have a post-storm discussion about wtf happened here? 

TLH having it pass E won't be quite as beneficial as ATL having it pass E.  The winds will still be real bad on that W side at landfall, now if it goes 30-40 miles E of TLH then maybe they get a big break

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3 minutes ago, Radtechwxman said:

Will hurricane hunters be in there every hr now till landfall?

Assuming the plane that's about to get there took off with a full tank of gas there's no reason to believe it will need to land before landfall. 

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Just now, NeffsvilleWx said:

What’s there to discuss?

Storms track in the cone only 2/3 of the time. The NHC doesn’t hide that.

 

A LOT.

The NHC ignored the global models ... then, for the last 24 hours, the hurricane models and went with spaghetti plots in the face of pretty good agreement from all the other models on planet earth. 

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1 minute ago, SnowGoose69 said:

TLH having it pass E won't be quite as beneficial as ATL having it pass E.  The winds will still be real bad on that W side at landfall, now if it goes 30-40 miles E of TLH then maybe they get a big break

Those winds die down REAL quick on the west side...

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1 minute ago, beanskip said:

A LOT.

The NHC ignored the global models ... then, for the last 24 hours, the hurricane models and went with spaghetti plots in the face of pretty good agreement from all the other models on planet earth. 

Take this to banter or wait until after the storm has passed.

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1 minute ago, beanskip said:

A LOT.

The NHC ignored the global models ... then, for the last 24 hours, the hurricane models and went with spaghetti plots in the face of pretty good agreement from all the other models on planet earth. 

I think the only mistake was the 11am issuance.  They went W only to have to go back E again thereafter.   Maybe holding it steady was right idea.  I'd have played the split between the hurricane models and globals a bit more dead even than they did the last 2 days for sure

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2 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said:

TLH having it pass E won't be quite as beneficial as ATL having it pass E.  The winds will still be real bad on that W side at landfall, now if it goes 30-40 miles E of TLH then maybe they get a big break

I am halfway between Tallahassee and Atlanta. Will winds still be bad on the west side here ? I'm due south of Atlanta and due north of Tallahassee.

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33 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said:

Seems reasonable now.  140-145 would not surprise me

Is it true that to derive the actual wind speed, on the right side of the storm, you take the windspeed and add to it the forward speed of the hurricane movement  So a hurricane with a windspeed of 130mph and a forward speed of 20mph would produce an effective wind velocity  of 150mph?

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24 minutes ago, Hoth said:

Siesta Key beach cam is pretty wild. Water over the whole beach and waves occasionally bumping the lifeguard stations. Glad my grandmother decided to take shelter inland. 

Low tide was over about a half hour ago and we have along ways to go to high tide after midnight. Already the water level is rising. Here in Gulfport we are used to seeing downtown flooded, but tonight could be the first time it will be too deep for people to wade in and around. It could be over everybody's heads in a few hours.

I notice the cameras are slow to load and that is because so many people are watching them. But after a moment or so you can see a live stream:

https://thegabber.com/gulfport-casino-web-cam/

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2 minutes ago, Prospero said:

Low tide was over about a half hour ago and we have along ways to go to high tide after midnight. Already the water level is rising. Here in Gulfport we are used to seeing downtown flooded, but tonight could be the first time it will be too deep for people to wade in and around. It could be over everybody's heads in a few hours.

I notice the cameras are slow to load and that is because so many people are watching them. But after a moment or so you can see a live stream:

https://thegabber.com/gulfport-casino-web-cam/

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People leaving their cars to get bathed in salt water don’t seem so bright. 

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28 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said:

Seems reasonable now.  140-145 would not surprise me

Yeah.. I was questioning my call of 150 MPH at LF I made yesterday or the day before. I think its a distinct possibility. Becoming almost likely at this point and that is just going to cause more problems inland as well. 

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