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A nice day to take care of any last-minute prep for Thanksgiving with sunny weather and temperatures about average for late November at near 50 degrees. Today will be our last above normal temperature day for quite a while. High temperatures will fall to the mid 40's tomorrow and then to the 30's by day and low 20's at night for much of the next week. Our only rain opportunity over the next week arrives by dawn tomorrow and should be exiting stage right by early afternoon. We could see around 0.50" of rain from this event.

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9 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

That's awesome.  Whereas I've never even been to Erie.  Bradford and the Allegheny National Forest are as close as I've gotten.  Just one of those things.

It's mind-numbing how large this state is. Last summer I was mapping out a trip to Ohsweken on the Six Nations of Ontario for a trip to their race track. It's on the other side of the lake and because of that, it would take four hours, 43 minutes from here. That lead me to thinking: How far is Toronto? I've been to the Falls. Trip took three and a half hours. Add an extra hour and 20 minutes for Toronto. Four hours, 58 minutes. 

Philadelphia? Three hours, 41 minutes. 

New York? Four hours, eight minutes. 

Detroit? Five hours, 22 minutes.

 

So from where my tuchus currently resides, I am only one hour, and 17 minutes further from the largest city in Canada than I am from the largest city in the state I live. 

 

Now imagine how hard it must be to be a forecaster at CTP knowing there's one layer of counties north and west of me that they are responsible for as well as counties at the Mason-Dixon Line.

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Have you guys encountered this new scam in Pennsylvania? I've seen a lot of discussion on Reddit about it. I know Columbia Gas has been doing it for some time, as has Philadelphia Gas Company. Now People's Gas is doing the same. It's called "weather normalization adjustment" and they tack it onto your gas bill. In theory, it's supposed to provide more standard billing and it's marketed as "revenue neutral." But I went back and looked at my bills back to 2002, and it looks like it's always additive - sometimes quite large. Even in December 2022, when there was a huge cold snap at Christmas, they still tacked on an extra charge. It doesn't even make sense. Supposedly, it'll charge you when less gas is being used due to warm weather. But I went back and compared and some months they said were warmer and I should have used less gas, I used the same or more gas. How am I being assessed a charge because their formula says I used less gas when I actually didn't use less gas? Doesn't make sense. Normally distributed data should have an equal amount above and below. Whatever they are claiming is normal weather is clearly bogus. Looks like a cash grab for the utilities.

I see PGW used this scam in May 2022, yes, in May, to charge people huge sums for a month when nobody uses gas anyways. They ended up refunding it that time. Unreal.

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39 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

That's awesome.  Whereas I've never even been to Erie.  Bradford and the Allegheny National Forest are as close as I've gotten.  Just one of those things.

To me it is amazing how it looks like the Ocean when on the shore of the lake...this is Presque Isle from a friend who was recently there.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

To me it is amazing how it looks like the Ocean when on the shore of the lake...this is Presque Isle from a friend who was recently there.

 

 

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There's another lighthouse a little ways down the Isle from there that still gives tours. Climbing a lighthouse is one of the coolest, most terrifying things. Lighthouse keepers were crazy people for doing that job, being up there once an hour, every hour, to keep the torch going.

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6 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

To me it is amazing how it looks like the Ocean when on the shore of the lake...this is Presque Isle from a friend who was recently there.

 

 

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Yes sir. That's what I took away from my first trip to Chicago...we were on the lakeshore and if I didn't know better I would have swore I was at the ocean. Pretty cool experience being on the beach with over 2.5 million people directly behind me. 

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Just now, WmsptWx said:

There's another lighthouse a little ways down the Isle from there that still gives tours. Climbing a lighthouse is one of the coolest, most terrifying things. Lighthouse keepers were crazy people for doing that job, being up there once an hour, every hour, to keep the torch going.

coolest, most terrifying...and strenuous. I had a chance to climb Cape Hatteras a few years ago and wasn't prepared to be overcome with exhaustion at the top.

Didn't help that it was 89/77 the day we visited. 

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3 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

Yes sir. That's what I took away from my first trip to Chicago...we were on the lakeshore and if I didn't know better I would have swore I was at the ocean. Pretty cool experience being on the beach with over 2.5 million people directly behind me. 

This is why I can go without the ocean. As much as I love the ocean, the only thing Beach Six doesn't have that the southern coast does is palm trees. Erie in August is spectacular. The lake is warm from the summer, the lake cools the coastline so while it's 85, 90°F in Millcreek Township, it's 84°F with a gentle breeze on the Isle. I love jumping waves, but I can satiate that at Waldameer just off the Isle. Great wave pool. Lake Erie is basically a glaciated swimming pool with an incredible sunset. And it's just up the road. 

 

Not a whole lot better. 

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Just now, WmsptWx said:

This is why I can go without the ocean. As much as I love the ocean, the only thing Beach Six doesn't have that the southern coast does is palm trees. Erie in August is spectacular. The lake is warm from the summer, the lake cools the coastline so while it's 85, 90°F in Millcreek Township, it's 84°F with a gentle breeze on the Isle. I love jumping waves, but I can satiate that at Waldameer just off the Isle. Great wave pool. Lake Erie is basically a glaciated swimming pool with an incredible sunset. And it's just up the road. 

 

Not a whole lot better. 

And no sharks or gators.  Fresh watering swimming in the southeast is life risking between gators, moccasins and amoebas. 

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2 hours ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

The cold continues to hold in the east as well in week 2 on the three global ensembles.

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This is why I was poo poohin Mitchy poos post yesterday about not much to see.  In the end he may well be spot on....but its not gonna be because the pattern sucks....

just our luck does.  

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1 hour ago, Mount Joy Snowman said:

That's awesome.  Whereas I've never even been to Erie.  Bradford and the Allegheny National Forest are as close as I've gotten.  Just one of those things.

Was in Eerie on motorcycle trip w/ my son and many father son combos this summer.  Presquile Isle is a beaut.  I'd rent the cabin in Mercer county once again if I was in the chase.  Bout 30 miles off the lake.

I'll be at the my cabin and if service allows, will share what we get, as you know where i am, I'm in a favored spot for the NC snowbelt region.  We NEVER get anything close those closer to the lakes, but I'm happy to see flakes flyin, and after looking at early nooners....we should have a few inches OTG by Friday AM arrival.  Will have beer in hand while plowing w/ UTV.  It's the little things in life that make me thankful.  This is one of them for me.  Love plowing snow.  

Happy Thanksgiving to all.  

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36 minutes ago, WmsptWx said:

There's another lighthouse a little ways down the Isle from there that still gives tours. Climbing a lighthouse is one of the coolest, most terrifying things. Lighthouse keepers were crazy people for doing that job, being up there once an hour, every hour, to keep the torch going.

that lighthouse is the one we were at this summer.  I may even have a pic of our crew standing there (not sure if my camera was used, or another guys.  

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8 minutes ago, pasnownut said:

Was in Eerie on motorcycle trip w/ my son and many father son combos this summer.  Presquile Isle is a beaut.  I'd rent the cabin in Mercer county once again if I was in the chase.  Bout 30 miles off the lake.

I'll be at the my cabin and if service allows, will share what we get, as you know where i am, I'm in a favored spot for the NC snowbelt region.  We NEVER get anything close those closer to the lakes, but I'm happy to see flakes flyin, and after looking at early nooners....we should have a few inches OTG by Friday AM arrival.  Will have beer in hand while plowing w/ UTV.  It's the little things in life that make me thankful.  This is one of them for me.  Love plowing snow.  

Happy Thanksgiving to all.  

Resonated - sometimes it's those little things that are unique to us that maybe others don't understand but at the same time we feel the most thankful for. 

Enjoy your wintry retreat. 

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13 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

Resonated - sometimes it's those little things that are unique to us that maybe others don't understand but at the same time we feel the most thankful for. 

Enjoy your wintry retreat. 

Well stated friend.

My brother, my son and several of his pals that call me POPS as they are all "my kids" will join us.  Blessed and thankful is an understatement.  

My son just informed my wife and I that we are going to be grandparents for the first time. 

Last night my aged father called to tell me his time afield and at the cabin is done, and wants me to take his rifle... talk about resonate and life going full circle.

I cant bring mysef to do it cause its the end of an era, and so many owe him their love of the mountains and being together.  He was the glue that held it together for oh  so long....now i carry the torch. 

Life's full of balance and oh so bittersweet.  

 

Be thankful all.  I sure am.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, paweather said:

Yeah I was just impress to see them even though they don't pan out this run. Haven't had any of that activity in a while. 

Trough axis too far E so very NS dominant verbatim, so clippers is the path to victory for us. 

at times of relaxation is when bigger threats might show....

Like 12/13.  GFS once again showing the incoming bombogenesis maximux but verbatim is likely to cut like a knife as troughing is gone.  Plenty of time for changes better....or worse.

 

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40 minutes ago, Itstrainingtime said:

Clippers are nothing but skippers around here without a digging vort. 

240 storm extrapolated on CMC has "best of show" prize for nooners.  Get that look to hold and that would likely deliver.

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