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12 minutes ago, paweather said:

JB and DT probably soon will be going snow crazy!

Unfortunately we dont see the trough axis heading west.  Were that to happin words like WOOF and BIG DOG (Henry Margusutyism) would come to mind, but the current long term look is for "clippers on roids or clipperfest".  I've got no problem w/ a parade of clippers. 

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looking at longer leads...GEPS is the one to root on as it holds the basic trough E ridge W look thru its entirety.  GEFS only out to 300 has it, but looks like ridging trying to pop back in east.  For how long, only time will tell.

 

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46 minutes ago, pasnownut said:

looking at longer leads...GEPS is the one to root on as it holds the basic trough E ridge W look thru its entirety.  GEFS only out to 300 has it, but looks like ridging trying to pop back in east.  For how long, only time will tell.

 

The good thing is both the Gefs and Geps still have a ridge out west. Towards the end of the runs the ridge moves west a bit which might alow for the gulf to open up some. Both have below normal 850s and 2m temps at the end of the runs.

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Both definitely have more moisture streaming from the south after day 10.

Geps actually looks like a couple Coastals just looking at the precip orientation.

Next week will be tough to get anything of significance while the coldest of anomalies are right on top of us. Probably will take to the second week of December till we have an opportunity with anything approaching from the Southwest.

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2 hours ago, pasnownut said:

This is why I was poo poohin Mitchy poos post yesterday about not much to see.  In the end he may well be spot on....but its not gonna be because the pattern sucks....

just our luck does.  

Cold/dry patterns, as hard as they have been to come by lately, are a lot easier than snowy patterns. Cold without snow is more frustrating to me than just a lousy/warm pattern. But, others may disagree. 

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26 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

Cold/dry patterns, as hard as they have been to come by lately, are a lot easier than snowy patterns. Cold without snow is more frustrating to me than just a lousy/warm pattern. But, others may disagree. 

Definitely a personal choice thing but for me, sunny and 50 is better than sunny and 20.    I understand a skier disagreeing.

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44 minutes ago, Chris78 said:

The good thing is both the Gefs and Geps still have a ridge out west. Towards the end of the runs the ridge moves west a bit which might alow for the gulf to open up some. Both have below normal 850s and 2m temps at the end of the runs.

Agreed.  That sure would open the window for bigger things.  Lets hope thats where this heads and not back to pig ridge/WAR in the east.  Been there...did that a plenty.  Time for a new regime (for as long as we can anyway as long rangers suggest Dec is our time to score.)

I'm headed off grid for the next week. 

Dont miss me too much yall.    

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38 minutes ago, Chris78 said:

Both definitely have more moisture streaming from the south after day 10.

Geps actually looks like a couple Coastals just looking at the precip orientation.

Next week will be tough to get anything of significance while the coldest of anomalies are right on top of us. Probably will take to the second week of December till we have an opportunity with anything approaching from the Southwest.

you summed it up rather perfectly.  Thanks for chiming in.  Good to hear from ya.

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33 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

Cold/dry patterns, as hard as they have been to come by lately, are a lot easier than snowy patterns. Cold without snow is more frustrating to me than just a lousy/warm pattern. But, others may disagree. 

My old bones agree, but my youthful mind is with the others....

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Actually, ensemble snowfall means on all 3 jumped imby from being an inch+ for the last 4+ 360hr runs to between 2.5"-3+". Doesn't guarantee snow, of course, but odds have certainly increased, which is all you can hope for with ensemble means. Everything of consequence is day 7+, so that part still stinks.

 

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2 minutes ago, mitchnick said:

Actually, ensemble snowfall means on all 3 jumped imby from being an inch+ for the last 4+ 360hr runs to between 2.5"-3+". Doesn't guarantee snow, of course, but odds have certainly increased, which is all you can hope for with ensemble means. Everything of consequence is day 7+, so that part still stinks.

 

Patience…maybe we enjoy a dusting to an inch or 2 with a couple of Clippers while we track storms with more upside the following week.

Step 1 is getting the cold entrenched this weekend.

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24 minutes ago, Blizzard of 93 said:

Patience…maybe we enjoy a dusting to an inch or 2 with a couple of Clippers while we track storms with more upside the following week.

Step 1 is getting the cold entrenched this weekend.

Patience...at my age? Naĥĥhhhhhh

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47 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

Plus, a lawyer.  Double whammy. 

Former lawyer. I officially filed the last papers in my last open estate on Monday. Finally! Should have happened a year ago but client just dragged his feet. Oh well, I'm done.

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6 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said:

HH GFS was a disappointment  Not due to the lack of snow vs. the long wave pattern.  It is a step back from 12Z with 40's to near 50 just a week out from now then a quick chill again before a cutter. 

One thing is certain in this world...extended Gfs will be wrong, one way or the other. 

I'm more interested to see if the Gefs snow mean cr@ps the he'd from it's 12z run.

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A half inch in the tipper so far this morning. Looks like a bit of a dry slot heading toward me per future radar, though. I just hope it stays overcast all day after the rain ends. As much as I love bright, sunny days, I like my Thanksgiving, and especially Christmas days, to be grey and cold looking. It adds to the "ambiance".

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