powderfreak Posted Sunday at 12:41 AM Share Posted Sunday at 12:41 AM 23 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Today we had a fall like storm but summer moisture so the storm didn’t pulled in closer . Take away the summer moisture and this would have been that See I would’ve thought drier air inland (take away summer moisture) in winter could’ve pushed the precip gradient even further east, not west? Though mid-level magic might have been put more of a banding structure in Ginxy’s area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted Sunday at 12:44 AM Share Posted Sunday at 12:44 AM 4 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Baroclinic processes would have led to a firehose back to the River in winter? I’m curious to hear a bit more on this. There couldn’t have been a gradient in E.MA in the winter? If you took away the summer moisture content from ocean . This gets pulled west in winter .It had due East inflow . There was quite a bit of convection over the Cape so moisture transport west was robbed. It’s pretty easy to envision a heavy deform band at least to river if this was Jan or Feb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted Sunday at 12:47 AM Share Posted Sunday at 12:47 AM 2 minutes ago, powderfreak said: See I would’ve thought drier air inland (take away summer moisture) in winter could’ve pushed the precip gradient even further east, not west? Though mid-level magic might have been put more of a banding structure in Ginxy’s area. I’d have to look more at the mid level features, but in general cold season events extend further west. Advective processes driven by temp gradients will do that. We had some of that today, but you could also see how over the last couple of days, the precip bomb was generally closer to the center where higher low level theta-e is. That’s why sometimes you’ll hear us say how precip modeled in July from low pressure will be closer to the low center. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted Sunday at 12:48 AM Share Posted Sunday at 12:48 AM 2 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: If you took away the summer moisture content from ocean . This gets pulled west in winter .It had due East inflow . There was quite a bit of convection over the Cape so moisture transport west was robbed. It’s pretty easy to envision a heavy deform band at least to river if this was Jan or Feb Ah ok that deeper convection robbing moisture makes sense to me. A stronger thermal gradient along the coast too. I guess I can see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted Sunday at 12:51 AM Share Posted Sunday at 12:51 AM Just now, powderfreak said: Ah ok that deeper convection robbing moisture makes sense to me. A stronger thermal gradient along the coast too. I guess I can see it. In summer whenever I see models dump high qpf from some sort of coastal I always toss because generally convection is going to keep high qpf closer to coast and convection . In winter that’s why I go more expansive. You’re going to throw moisture well north and west with cold ocean and no convection . Today may have had a few inches up to VT today in winter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted Sunday at 01:00 AM Share Posted Sunday at 01:00 AM 2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I’d have to look more at the mid level features, but in general cold season events extend further west. Advective processes driven by temp gradients will do that. We had some of that today, but you could also see how over the last couple of days, the precip bomb was generally closer to the center where higher low level theta-e is. That’s why sometimes you’ll hear us say how precip modeled in July from low pressure will be closer to the low center. Good info. Just trying to visualize it in 3-D… stronger coastal front and then further west better mid-level gradients creating stronger lift to the west? If visualizing a cross-section of the atmosphere… those stronger/tighter thermal gradients in winter (diluted now) create more of a slope to advect that higher theta-e air up and over? That advection leading to more widespread precip on the cooler/W/NW side of the system? Likely more uniform conveyor belts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted Sunday at 01:14 AM Share Posted Sunday at 01:14 AM 36 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: It’s crazy how many trees they killed. Yeah there’s a stretch in there just N of CON on 93 that is like half full of dead trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted Sunday at 01:19 AM Share Posted Sunday at 01:19 AM 15 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Good info. Just trying to visualize it in 3-D… stronger coastal front and then further west better mid-level gradients creating stronger lift to the west? If visualizing a cross-section of the atmosphere… those stronger/tighter thermal gradients in winter (diluted now) create more of a slope to advect that higher theta-e air up and over? That advection leading to more widespread precip on the cooler/W/NW side of the system? Likely more uniform conveyor belts? They create more of a slope effect, but you’d likely have a better dynamic environment. For instance maybe you have +10 at 850 SE of ACK but -12C over FIT. Thermo gradients have a constructive feedback where the jet amplifies and therefore the entire low pressure system amplifies too. 300mb jet streaks that lead to intensifying low pressure are directly related to low level temp gradients. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted Sunday at 02:22 AM Share Posted Sunday at 02:22 AM 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: They create more of a slope effect, but you’d likely have a better dynamic environment. For instance maybe you have +10 at 850 SE of ACK but -12C over FIT. Thermo gradients have a constructive feedback where the jet amplifies and therefore the entire low pressure system amplifies too. 300mb jet streaks that lead to intensifying low pressure are directly related to low level temp gradients. That makes sense. Gradient leading to increased wind speeds throughout the column. Everything tightens up a bit quicker? This is the type of discussion I remember when first getting into online weather boards. Appreciate the knowledge and deeper meteorology. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted Sunday at 03:50 AM Share Posted Sunday at 03:50 AM 1 hour ago, powderfreak said: That makes sense. Gradient leading to increased wind speeds throughout the column. Everything tightens up a bit quicker? This is the type of discussion I remember when first getting into online weather boards. Appreciate the knowledge and deeper meteorology. Just picture a death band from Ray to me as Tolland downslopes. Pretty common in big storms often why Tolland maxes at 14 in fluff while we dig out from 20 to 30 of paste. He will out total us due to higher elevation and more frequent higher ratio snows but as a general rule sans Feb 13 and March 13 deform bands like that 495 to 395 zone. It's scientifically sound 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted Sunday at 11:52 AM Share Posted Sunday at 11:52 AM From inches to sprinkles on the euro. What a model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted Sunday at 12:05 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:05 PM 13 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: From inches to sprinkles on the euro. What a model. We in trouble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted Sunday at 12:07 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:07 PM 1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said: We in trouble Did you get anything at all last few days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted Sunday at 12:07 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:07 PM Looks like 7-8”+ on the other cape and ACK. Crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted Sunday at 12:09 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:09 PM 17 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: From inches to sprinkles on the euro. What a model. It's shocking how bad it is. Basically throwing in the trash for the winter. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted Sunday at 12:10 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:10 PM 3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Did you get anything at all last few days? 0.00 .33 MTD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted Sunday at 12:32 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:32 PM 40 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: From inches to sprinkles on the euro. What a model. Driest September on record looks like a lock now down here at EWR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted Sunday at 01:13 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:13 PM 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: Did you get anything at all last few days? Greenfield had maybe 10 minutes of light rain Friday morning. The smaller rivers are down to a trickle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted Sunday at 01:15 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:15 PM Torch! Today Partly sunny, with a high near 66. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph. Tonight Partly cloudy, with a low around 45. East wind around 5 mph becoming calm. Monday Partly sunny, with a high near 67. Northeast wind around 5 mph. Monday Night Mostly cloudy, with a low around 46. Southeast wind around 5 mph becoming calm. Tuesday Partly sunny, with a high near 66. East wind around 5 mph. Tuesday Night Mostly cloudy, with a low around 47. Wednesday Mostly cloudy, with a high near 64. Wednesday Night A 50 percent chance of showers. Cloudy, with a low around 50. Thursday A 50 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 64. Thursday Night A 50 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 52. Friday A 30 percent chance of showers. Partly sunny, with a high near 68. Friday Night A 30 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 52. Saturday Mostly sunny, with a high near 70. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted Sunday at 01:17 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:17 PM Torch!Today Partly sunny, with a high near 66. Northeast wind 5 to 10 mph. Tonight Partly cloudy, with a low around 45. East wind around 5 mph becoming calm. Monday Partly sunny, with a high near 67. Northeast wind around 5 mph. Monday Night Mostly cloudy, with a low around 46. Southeast wind around 5 mph becoming calm. Tuesday Partly sunny, with a high near 66. East wind around 5 mph. Tuesday Night Mostly cloudy, with a low around 47. Wednesday Mostly cloudy, with a high near 64. Wednesday Night A 50 percent chance of showers. Cloudy, with a low around 50. Thursday A 50 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 64. Thursday Night A 50 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 52. Friday A 30 percent chance of showers. Partly sunny, with a high near 68. Friday Night A 30 percent chance of showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 52. Saturday Mostly sunny, with a high near 70. Looks like our moosehead trip next weekend will be mostly good weatherwiseSent from my SM-S921U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted Sunday at 01:18 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:18 PM Just now, Lava Rock said: Looks like our moosehead trip next weekend will be mostly good weatherwise Sent from my SM-S921U using Tapatalk I'll be down to Naples ha ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted Sunday at 01:19 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:19 PM I'll be down to Naples ha ha.Damn, we keep missing each otherSent from my SM-S921U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted Sunday at 01:20 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:20 PM Just now, Lava Rock said: Damn, we keep missing each other Sent from my SM-S921U using Tapatalk I know, lol, We will hook up this winter though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted Sunday at 01:26 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:26 PM Was out in the woods yesterday scouting and setting up a game cam out at a new hunting plot and it is very dry in the woods, The amount of acorns on the ground is crazy as the wind would pick up they were dropping everywhere and their ginormous too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted Sunday at 01:31 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:31 PM Looks like 70’s return for SNE by the end of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted Sunday at 01:32 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:32 PM 2.25 last few days. Needed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted Sunday at 01:37 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:37 PM 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: From inches to sprinkles on the euro. What a model. what time range are you referring ? - not intending to 'defend' the euro here, but i've noticed that every model has been particularly bad in the mid+ range for a few days now, in this region: just curious cuz they've all been flip-flopping on placement of ridge and trough nodes in that nebular flow region below the appr polar branch, way more so than normal variability for d5-8 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted Sunday at 02:24 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:24 PM 57 minutes ago, dryslot said: Was out in the woods yesterday scouting and setting up a game cam out at a new hunting plot and it is very dry in the woods, The amount of acorns on the ground is crazy as the wind would pick up they were dropping everywhere and their ginormous too. Acorn crop here is strong with giant acorns. did last year’s summer of rain help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma blizzard Posted Sunday at 03:16 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:16 PM 0.81" 3 day total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted Sunday at 04:16 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:16 PM 2 hours ago, Typhoon Tip said: what time range are you referring ? - not intending to 'defend' the euro here, but i've noticed that every model has been particularly bad in the mid+ range for a few days now, in this region: just curious cuz they've all been flip-flopping on placement of ridge and trough nodes in that nebular flow region below the appr polar branch, way more so than normal variability for d5-8 range. Just later this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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