wthrmn654 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Amazing how it's still dropping pressure yet taking on air, but luckily winds aren't going crazy power say. With that said recon may of gotten a couple samples while it was firing up again. May just be night time throwing a twist but it looks like it's a little smaller.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kevin Reilly Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 12 minutes ago, wthrmn654 said: There is lots of dry stable air poised up here in the Mid Atlantic complete with wildfire smoke from Eastern Canda. Dewpoints in the mid 50's here right now and that air is actually pressing southeast towards Ernesto, so I really think this storm stays in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 By the way, this recon plot says 969mb and the flight level winds peaked at close to 100 kt (can't show the plot) but at least 96kt (cat 3) with one wind barb being the light pink color. As mentioned NHC says 90mph on Public Advisory 17A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 6 minutes ago, Chinook said: By the way, this recon plot says 969mb and the flight level winds peaked at close to 100 kt (can't show the plot) but at least 96kt (cat 3) with one wind barb being the light pink color. As mentioned NHC says 90mph on Public Advisory 17A I saw that as well, they were flying into a deep explosive cluster of storms when that was being recorded too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Whereas highest winds are important and interesting to follow, keep in mind how large this storm is: TS winds extend out a whopping 265 miles SE of the center. The storm size (based on TS force winds) is ~425 miles from NW to SE. The average is only ~300 miles wide. Due to this large size and projected slower movement near Bermuda, rainfall there is projected by the NHC to be 6-12” on Bermuda with high amounts to 15”. Those would be extreme amounts for them possibly leading to widespread flash flooding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL052024 1100 PM AST Thu Aug 15 2024 Ernesto has been strengthening this evening. Data from an Air Force Hurricane Hunter aircraft indicate that the minimum pressure has fallen to about 968 mb, and a blend of the peak flight-level and SFMR winds support increasing the initial intensity to 85 kt. This makes Ernesto a category 2 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale. Ernesto has a ragged eye and a large wind field, with the highest winds occurring in the northeast quadrant. Ernesto is moving north-northeastward at 12 kt in the flow between a high pressure system over the central Atlantic and a large-scale trough off the U.S. east coast. This general motion is expected to continue for the next day or two, bringing the hurricane near or over Bermuda on Saturday. Around that time, the trough is expected to lift out, leaving Ernesto in weaker steering currents. As a result, a slower and likely more erratic motion to the north or north-northeast is forecast over the weekend. Another trough is expected to approach the cyclone late in the weekend, and that should cause an accelerated motion to the northeast near or east of Atlantic Canada early next week. The NHC track forecast is a touch to the east and a little slower than the previous one through its passage near Bermuda to come into better agreement with the latest consensus aids. It seems likely that Ernesto will strengthen some more during the next 12 to 24 hours as it is expected to remain in conducive environmental conditions of low wind shear, upper-level diffluence, a relatively moist airmass, and over warm waters during that time. Thereafter, increasing vertical wind shear and gradually cooler waters should cause a slow weakening trend. However, baroclinic influences could offset some of the weakening, which is why the official forecast shows little change in strength during the 48- to 72-hour time frame. Ernesto is forecast to complete extratropical transition by day 5, when it will likely be embedded within the mid-latitude westerlies. The NHC intensity forecast lies near the high end of the guidance, in best agreement with the HCCA model. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 It picked up 1 mph sped Movement wise lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 I swear it looks like that front is taking it north east faster.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Since 1939 the wettest TC at Bermuda was in October of 1939, which produced 7.35”, which may be less than one would think. Thus the 6-12” amounts being forecasted are quite ominous in relation to history: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Wettest_tropical_cyclones_in_Bermuda This very heavy rainfall risk is high due to a combo of expected slow movement nearby, large size, and (near) record warm SSTs possibly leading to extra high PWATs. 0Z Euro: 8” E end to 11” W end. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSureWeather Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Looks like it’s dying. Whole west side is basically gone. Front is ripping it apart. Some Bermuda Triangle voodoo? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Minimal Cane…the hype on this thing far exceeded its actual performance. Sad part is that this seems to happen more and more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 One word summarizes this storm: meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthHillsWx Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Imo the delayed Caribbean development ultimately doomed this one to mediocrity. It didn’t have enough time to mix out dry air while conditions were right and its starting point was too low so it developed into a Cinnabon storm. Unless these are given lots of time they usually go the same route as this one- a broad storm with a hollow core. Now it’s experiencing the SW shear and it’s time to strengthen has ceased. That being said, this will be a solid hit on Bermuda. It won’t take the eye making a rare direct hit to have big impacts with the broad eyewall. And what recon has shown is a large system with a ton of wind energy, so higher elevations will experience prolonged hurricane force winds and waves and surge will be amplified as well. But it was clear that NHC sticking to high end of intensity forecasts on this one was probably not going to pan out. A prolific wave producer for the east coast- I’m currently in nags head and about to hit the water somewhere south of here. Going to be great surfing this afternoon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jm1220 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 26 minutes ago, NorthHillsWx said: Imo the delayed Caribbean development ultimately doomed this one to mediocrity. It didn’t have enough time to mix out dry air while conditions were right and its starting point was too low so it developed into a Cinnabon storm. Unless these are given lots of time they usually go the same route as this one- a broad storm with a hollow core. Now it’s experiencing the SW shear and it’s time to strengthen has ceased. That being said, this will be a solid hit on Bermuda. It won’t take the eye making a rare direct hit to have big impacts with the broad eyewall. And what recon has shown is a large system with a ton of wind energy, so higher elevations will experience prolonged hurricane force winds and waves and surge will be amplified as well. But it was clear that NHC sticking to high end of intensity forecasts on this one was probably not going to pan out. A prolific wave producer for the east coast- I’m currently in nags head and about to hit the water somewhere south of here. Going to be great surfing this afternoon. This should go on Ernesto’s Wikipedia page as its official obituary. Well done! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Years ago I thought there was a saying about one of the letters in the alphabet of names being one that's not good with tropical systems. Lol it may of been the letter E storms None the less, Ernesto tropical career has been one that was never really successful only 2 times if i remember the wiki Stat from yesterday,did it became a cane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 The fact that the dry air was persistent for 24hrs was red flag#2. Red flag#1 was the extremely far movement, I without a doubt think has it been moving gals of its speed orginally say 7,8 mphs, it would of also been able to explode and erode the dry air. That thing was moving so fast, kept getting into New dry air it would seem around the time it finally absorbed and was getting is act better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 500 AM AST Fri Aug 16 2024 Ernesto's strengthening trend has seemingly halted overnight. The cloud pattern near the center has become less organized, and the system appears to be struggling with dry air again with some eyewall erosion in the western semicircle. Still, the convective banding in the eastern side where the previous aircraft mission found the peak winds remains deep and well-defined, suggesting that Ernesto hasn't lost much strength. The initial wind speed is kept at 85 kt for this advisory, a bit above the latest satellite estimates, pending the upcoming Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunter aircraft mission this morning. The environment near Ernesto could support some strengthening today. However, the most noticeable change in the overnight intensity guidance aids is that almost all of them are showing more shear today than previously expected. This shear, combined with the environmental dry air, has led to this cycle's intensity forecast values being a lot lower than 6 h ago. Given current trends, the NHC prediction has been decreased from the last forecast, and is still on the high side of the guidance. It is worth noting that despite the peak wind speed reductions, the forecast size is generally larger than the previous forecast, so the life-threatening hazards from Ernesto are unchanged. After the hurricane passes Bermuda, there could be a brief window for some re-intensification in lighter shear conditions plus favorable trough influences before Ernesto crosses into cool waters, and little change was made at longer range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 This storm is just so backwards and confusing with the pressure drops yet semi crazy winds on only half of it lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Reilly Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 3 minutes ago, wthrmn654 said: This storm is just so backwards and confusing with the pressure drops yet semi crazy winds on only half of it lol. What this tells me is that the future looks bright for a large ocean storm when it becomes extratropical into the North Atlantic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Noaa 49, noaa 43 are en route with teal somewhere in the storm can't pick him up on flight tracking sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 34knts 50knts 64knts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wthrmn654 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 It would appear/ seem that its going north east, does it go to the south/ east of Bermuda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 2nd recon pass suggest pressure is up to 971. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 31 minutes ago, wthrmn654 said: Getting a bit of a "halficane" look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 1 hour ago, Kevin Reilly said: What this tells me is that the future looks bright for a large ocean storm when it becomes extratropical into the North Atlantic. This is actually a very interesting setup for swell generation aimed at the east coast. Normally in a more symmetrical hurricane swell aimed at the east coast which is generated in the SE quadrant has to pass through equally strong opposing winds as it passes through the NW quadrant knocking down wave heights significantly. In this case there is much less opposing wind so swell will be free to exit. This weekend should be very interesting as beaches are still in full summer swing. Usually these types of events occur in September when the crowds are gone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 Noaa plane showing 967mb.. wtf This is like a zombie cane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted August 16 Share Posted August 16 They kinda found an eye earlier lol? NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL052024 1100 AM AST Fri Aug 16 2024 Ernesto appears to be feeling the effects of vertical wind shear this morning. The structure on satellite has become more asymmetric with the coldest cloud tops shifted to the east of the center fixes being made by an ongoing Air Force Hurricane Hunter mission, which also found a 50-mile-wide eye open to the southwest. Despite the degraded satellite appearance, the aircraft still found 700-mb flight-level winds up to 98 kt, with peak SFMR-derived winds of 76 kt in the southeast quadrant of Ernesto. A blend of these data still supports an intensity of 85 kt this advisory, though this could be generous. The hurricane remains quite large with tropical-storm-force winds extending up to 240 n mi southeast of the center. Ernesto continues to move north-northeast, estimated at 330/12 kt. The deep-layer trough that has been initially influencing Ernesto's motion is already starting to leave the tropical cyclone behind, and the track guidance indicates the hurricane will begin to slow its forward motion over the next day or so while continuing to move north-northeastward. After that time, another shortwave trough currently over the upper Midwest U.S. is forecast to dig southeastward, which should ultimately result in Ernesto accelerating northeastward around the periphery of the subtropical ridge to its southeast. The track guidance this cycle is quite close to the prior forecast, and the NHC track forecast only has minor changes compared to the previous cycle. Vertical wind shear diagnosed by SHIPS guidance is already up to 25 kt or greater, and this shear is likely to persist for another 12 to 24 h. Thus the latest NHC intensity forecast now shows a little more weakening, though it should be noted some of the hurricane regional models show Ernesto weakening below hurricane intensity over the next 36 h. Thereafter, as the first trough bypasses the system, the forecast shear decreases while the tropical cyclone remains over 28 C or warmer sea surface temperatures. Thus, there remains an opportunity for Ernesto to re-intensify before it reaches the north wall of the Gulf Stream by early next week. However, extratropical transition will likely be underway shortly after it crosses over much cooler waters after 72 h, with the latest NHC forecast showing the system becoming extratropical at 96 h. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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