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August "Ughust" 2024 Obs/Disco


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anyone noticed that 'busts' lately are GInormous ... ?     That's new.  

Used to be a forecast for 2-4" of snow ended up 8 to 10"    Impressive enough.    In 1997 1-3" of slop not only busted clear to 20", it did so with temperatures well below and too cold be qualified anywhere close slop.   It was 26F in Acton and we got 16" ... 21" up here along Rt 2 from that.  But that "kind" of over the top excessive and unreasonable punishment scale of busting is seems to be getting more common.

Like Leomenster last year, or these freak shows in VT, or Brian getting 40" in 6 hours ins 2021 ( was that already 3 years ago!).   

The bust behaviors are beyond the pail ... like these Tsar Bomba events

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11 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said:

The over reliance on futurecast...

What old school techniques would you have used to forecast this event?

Sometimes things just happen but our culture today is always looking for something or someone to blame.

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2 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

10”…lol not one model run had anything even close to this type of event. Pathetic. 

Nope the HRRR was def hinting at some big totals in SENY and extreme SWCT though had some 4-7” jacks on some runs on it.  
 

The intense rain is rotating back into my hood now might be over 3” after that. 

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3 minutes ago, Sey-Mour Snow said:

Nope the HRRR was def hinting at some big totals in SENY and extreme SWCT though had some 4-7” jacks on some runs on it.  
 

The intense rain is rotating back into my hood now might be over 3” after that. 

But I assume it was tossed/discarded as an extreme outlier right? 

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2 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

But I assume it was tossed/discarded as an extreme outlier right? 

I mean, it’s an extreme mesoscale event about the size of a county.  Thats asking a lot from models on that scale.  If the entire state of CT was getting 5-10”, yeah that’s a problem… we’ve seen a lot of these small footprint uber-extreme rainfall events the past few years.  This one is just hitting a very highly populated area too.

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23 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

What old school techniques would you have used to forecast this event?

Sometimes things just happen but our culture today is always looking for something or someone to blame.

Lol…not looking to blame anything.  Just pointing out it’s a massive bust out here. I couldn’t give two terds in blaming anybody, as you said, sometimes it just happens. But it’s still a big fail for this area. 

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3 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Lol…not looking to blame anything.  Just pointing out it’s a massive bust out here. I couldn’t give two terds in blaming anybody, as you said, sometimes it just happens. But it’s still a big fail for this area. 

It’s just such a small footprint in the grand scheme of things from a modeling standpoint.  There were signs there but if you were looking for the GFS and EURO to put a 5-10 spot over one county, not happening.

Hopefully someone can pull a foot.

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16 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

I mean, it’s an extreme mesoscale event about the size of a county.  Thats asking a lot from models on that scale.  If the entire state of CT was getting 5-10”, yeah that’s a problem… we’ve seen a lot of these small footprint uber-extreme rainfall events the past few years.  This one is just hitting a very highly populated area too.

Summer is hard enough with weak Synoptics nevermind mesoscale events. I didn’t look but maybe hrrr hinted at something here. This time of year into October can have prolific rain events. 

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3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Summer is hard enough with weak Synoptics nevermind mesoscale events. I didn’t look but maybe hrrr hinted at something here. This time of year into October can have prolific rain events. 

Yeah we saw it a couple weeks ago… no model had 8+” falling in Saint Johnsbury and NEK in 4 hours.

The footprint size on that event looks very similar to this one.  A county, maybe county and a half?

I mean I’d be super impressed if the models started nailing these.  Good luck with that though.

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Just now, powderfreak said:

Yeah we saw it a couple weeks ago… no model had 8+” falling in Saint Johnsbury and NEK in 4 hours.

The footprint size on that event looks very similar to this one.  A county, maybe county and a half?

I mean I’d be super impressed if the models started nailing these.  Good luck with that though.

6z hrrr hinted at it too. Interesting.

Lets back build.

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3 minutes ago, Sey-Mour Snow said:

Not sure I’ve ever seen such a large area of 8-10” in these parts 

Epic model bust but HRRR had it late-Upton had no flood watches here either....heaviest to my west but a good 3 inches here

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