WinstonSalemArlington Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Unreal. I feel bad for Doug Kammerer and his summer outlook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Welp, lots of 'booming' here in last 10 minutes. On the southern edge of a STW. No water from the sky yet though, we shall see. Winds blowing 20-30 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Showers popping up to the sw, but Frederick seems to be back in a rain shadow pattern, so my expectations are low. I’d be hyped around the 270 split to Columbia magnet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE FOR WS 553 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 240 PM EDT WED JUL 17 2024 SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH 553 IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1000 PM EDT FOR THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS MDC003-005-009-011-013-015-017-019-021-025-027-029-031-033-035- 037-039-041-045-047-510-180200- /O.NEW.KWNS.SV.A.0553.240717T1840Z-240718T0200Z/ MD . MARYLAND COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE ANNE ARUNDEL BALTIMORE CALVERT CAROLINE CARROLL CECIL CHARLES DORCHESTER FREDERICK HARFORD HOWARD KENT MONTGOMERY PRINCE GEORGES QUEEN ANNE`S SOMERSET ST. MARYS TALBOT WICOMICO WORCESTER MARYLAND INDEPENDENT CITIES INCLUDED ARE BALTIMORE CITY $$ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 23 minutes ago, wxdude64 said: Welp, lots of 'booming' here in last 10 minutes. On the southern edge of a STW. No water from the sky yet though, we shall see. Winds blowing 20-30 mph. 0.25 and still falling, win. Temp down to 72.2 from the 88.9 high. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Looks like the bay breeze has swept through BWI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 I would be interested in seeing data from July 1936 in your region. Toronto and New York City both set their all-time highs in July 1936 (Toronto 105F July 8, 9 and 10; NYC 106 July 9). A lot of other locations in eastern and central U.S. set very high records that month also. When it was reported that DCA matched a string of three hot days set in 1930, I started to wonder why 1936 wasn't in the mix (although NYC only went two days >100). The heat was generally intense from around 7th to mid-month (and also around Aug 3-5). A location in ND (Steele) was 120F and it exceeded 110 in parts of west-central Canada also, although July 1937 produced a hotter reading of 113F in SK and June 30, 2021 broke that national record in BC at 120F in Lytton BC -- it was 45C (113F) at my place so for a day I was living in a location tying our national record -- town of Lytton (pop 1200) was burned to ground by train-track-spark-induced fires on day of record warm max). There has been very little rebuilding yet because of insurance wrangles and archaeology issues (academics wanting to sift soil for cultural relics pre-settlement days). Not that there is any rush to live in this notorious hot spot anyway. On similar topic, a toasty 100F at 1230 local time as we endure day seven of our heat wave. I am by no means in a hot spot here, we live halfway upslope from Columbia River to alpine regions at around 3400' asl, it is probably around 105F in valley now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 @Roger SmithI don't have personal records that far back, but 3 CO-ops go back into 1890's, I'll look..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE FOR WS 553NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK240 PM EDT WED JUL 17 2024SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WATCH 553 IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 1000 PM EDTFOR THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONSMDC003-005-009-011-013-015-017-019-021-025-027-029-031-033-035-037-039-041-045-047-510-180200-/O.NEW.KWNS.SV.A.0553.240717T1840Z-240718T0200Z/MD. MARYLAND COUNTIES INCLUDED AREANNE ARUNDEL BALTIMORE CALVERTCAROLINE CARROLL CECILCHARLES DORCHESTER FREDERICKHARFORD HOWARD KENTMONTGOMERY PRINCE GEORGES QUEEN ANNE`SSOMERSET ST. MARYS TALBOTWICOMICO WORCESTERMARYLAND INDEPENDENT CITIES INCLUDED AREBALTIMORE CITY$$Radar looks intriguing. Sun is in and out in Frederick…I’m ready for some electrical storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 4 minutes ago, Roger Smith said: I would be interested in seeing data from July 1936 in your region. Toronto and New York City both set their all-time highs in July 1936 (Toronto 105F July 8, 9 and 10; NYC 106 July 9). A lot of other locations in eastern and central U.S. set very high records that month also. When it was reported that DCA matched a string of three hot days set in 1930, I started to wonder why 1936 wasn't in the mix (although NYC only went two days >100). The heat was generally intense from around 7th to mid-month (and also around Aug 3-5). A location in ND (Steele) was 120F and it exceeded 110 in parts of west-central Canada also, although July 1937 produced a hotter reading of 113F in SK and June 30, 2021 broke that national record in BC at 120F in Lytton BC -- it was 45F at my place so for a day I was living in a location tying our national record -- town of Lytton (pop 1200) was burned to ground by train-track-spark-induced fires on day of record warm max). There has been very little rebuilding yet because of insurance wrangles and archaeology issues (academics wanting to sift soil for cultural relics pre-settlement days). Not that there is any rush to live in this notorious hot spot anyway. On similar topic, a toasty 100F at 1230 local time as we endure day seven of our heat wave. I ah by no means in a hot spot here, we live halfway upslope fro Colu bia River to alpine regions at around 3400' asl, it is probably around 105F in valley now. DCA also went big that second week of July 1936. 104 and 105 on the 9th and 10th. That said the rest of the summer is unimpressive, including an amazing 60 degree high (!) on June 24th and 70s for highs multiple times at the end of July and early August. It really was a one hit wonder summer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 minute ago, MN Transplant said: DCA also went big that second week of July 1936. 104 and 105 on the 9th and 10th. That said the rest of the summer is unimpressive, including an amazing 60 degree high (!) on June 24th and 70s for highs multiple times at the end of July and early August. It really was a one hit wonder summer. What was the following winter like I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dailylurker Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 That line looks like the best chance for widespread rain that I've seen in months. Let's go, line for all! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 minute ago, dailylurker said: That line looks like the best chance for widespread rain that I've seen in months. Let's go, line for all! The mountains will kill it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 White Sulphur Springs, WV (about 20 miles west of me). 1936-07-08 92 56 74.0 3.0 0 9 0.00 0.0 0 1936-07-09 99 58 78.5 7.4 0 14 0.00 0.0 0 1936-07-10 100 60 80.0 8.8 0 15 0.20 0.0 0 1936-07-11 95 63 79.0 7.8 0 14 0.00 0.0 0 1936-07-12 95 61 78.0 6.7 0 13 0.00 0.0 0 Hot Springs, VA (about 10 miles north and at 3700 elevation). 1936-07-08 86 55 70.5 -0.7 0 6 0.00 1936-07-09 92 59 75.5 4.2 0 11 0.00 1936-07-10 94 61 77.5 6.2 0 13 T 1936-07-11 94 63 78.5 7.2 0 14 0.30 1936-07-12 86 62 74.0 2.7 0 9 0.04 Lexington, VA (about 30 miles east of me). 1936-07-08 99 63 81.0 5.8 0 16 0.00 1936-07-09 99 66 82.5 7.2 0 18 0.00 1936-07-10 100 68 84.0 8.6 0 19 0.00 1936-07-11 96 68 82.0 6.6 0 17 T 1936-07-12 92 69 80.5 5.1 0 16 0.18 It was warm/hot, but not earth shattering. As someone posted, the end of month was remarkably cooler, and the averages for the month at each location was in the +0.6 to +2.0 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 6 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: What was the following winter like I wonder? Relatively warm for the time period and wet. Average snow (20"). The prior three winters were cold and snowy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickinBaltimore Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Good heavy soaking rain falling right now in Dundalk. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 No idea what was going on with MRB in July 1936, though I’ve seen these same temps listed in all the climate records I have found. Considering temps were 10 to 18° lower at HGR on a couple of these days, I would discount these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Rain is missing here today so far, as it has all week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 I'm assuming that @Jrlg1181 got rained on As well as @EastCoast NPZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 5 minutes ago, yoda said: I'm assuming that @Jrlg1181 got rained on As well as @EastCoast NPZ @Jrlg1181 may have gotten wet, but looks like the same thing happened as last night, LOTS of water south of 64, not so much north near his location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GramaxRefugee Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 53 minutes ago, MN Transplant said: DCA also went big that second week of July 1936. 104 and 105 on the 9th and 10th. That said the rest of the summer is unimpressive, including an amazing 60 degree high (!) on June 24th and 70s for highs multiple times at the end of July and early August. It really was a one hit wonder summer. Some have said this is a better-than-most climate site near DC, billed as Lincoln VA when you choose it, then it becomes Purcellville, in name. Anyway, if you drop that 72f on the first, the lowest max for the month is 87. (But it always drops below 80 at night , even on the 10th) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherShak Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Feel like these are going to pack a punch. Occurring at peak heating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 DCA has had several streaks of 100.4 (38C) - and it's had it for the last two 5 min obs - so we'll see if rounding gives us 101F. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Just now, WeatherShak said: Feel like these are going to pack a punch. Occurring at peak heating lol don't think these are gonna die over the mountains. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.J Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, 87storms said: Radar looks intriguing. Sun is in and out in Frederick…I’m ready for some electrical storms. Pretty beefy line coming in. Not counting my chickens before they hatch still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terpeast Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 High of 98, line incoming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Thanks for all data posted about July 1936. There are stories of horrific urban death tolls in Chicago, NYC, and Toronto as well as lots of other places in those pre-A/C days and after a sizzling 105-110 day, no relief even if lows dipped a bit below 80, inside temps were likely well into 90s after a few days of it ... and stories of people sleeping on rooftops and in parks for duration of severe heat. Toronto set high min records only broken once since (78F on several of days of 105F interval). Also to give further idea of upper driving forces in July 1936, Toronto also had its sunniest and driest July on record. It basically did not rain at all and averaged 12 hrs sun per day. Drought must have been extreme in Ontario and upstate NY at least. It was quite warm also in may (a top 20 mean for Toronto and NYC) before a relatively cool June. Upper ridge probably peaking around 603-605 dm over SD-IA early in July, flattened a bit to allow heat to spread east, then retrogressed and a trof deepened over east coast later in July. Some further oscillations in August as heat was unrelenting in central plains states and showed up again briefly in eastern US and s Ontario early August (and again around Sept 18). 1854 was apparently a less extreme copy of 1936. Caswell's Providence RI journal talks about forest fire smoke clouds darkening skies around same time as 97-98 max in Toronto mid-July. As to winter 1936-37, you'll probably find in detail, very cold at times late NOV, milder last part of DEC and all JAN, still quite mild FEB, colder in march -- betting most of 20" snow occurred at bookends of a mild winter. Another summer with extreme heat in northeast US was 1911, any interesting runs of 100+ for you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherShak Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Happy hour 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATECH Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 102 high today. Hopefully the last one for a long time! Let’s see how the storms screw some of us over tonight! Good luck, may everyone get lots or rain! …and keep your power! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87storms Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 13 minutes ago, Mrs.J said: Pretty beefy line coming in. Not counting my chickens before they hatch still. Rain has picked up, but definitely lacking in T&L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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