Rtd208 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 The 06z GFS/GEFS continues the very wet theme for mid to late week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 The temperature is going up very quickly this morning. Current temp 86/DP 73/RH 67% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 This is the warmest start to summer on record for parts of the region. Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 1994-07-07 78.5 0 2 2024-07-07 77.9 0 3 2010-07-07 77.4 0 4 1993-07-07 76.8 0 5 2021-07-07 76.4 0 Time Series Summary for Reading Area, PA (ThreadEx)Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2024-07-07 76.7 0 2 1925-07-07 75.9 0 3 1966-07-07 75.8 0 4 1943-07-07 75.5 0 5 1949-07-07 75.3 0 - 1934-07-07 75.3 0 Time Series Summary for New Brunswick Area, NJ (ThreadEx)Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2024-07-07 74.8 0 - 1899-07-07 74.8 0 2 2010-07-07 74.6 0 - 1901-07-07 74.6 0 3 1898-07-07 74.5 0 4 1925-07-07 74.4 0 5 1934-07-07 74.1 0 Time Series Summary for IGOR I SIKORSKY MEMORIAL AIRPORT, CTClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2024-07-07 73.1 0 2 1994-07-07 73.0 0 3 2010-07-07 72.9 0 4 2008-07-07 72.6 0 5 1999-07-07 72.1 0 Time Series Summary for SOMERSET AIRPORT, NJClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2024-07-07 73.4 0 2 1999-07-07 72.6 7 3 2010-07-07 72.5 0 - 2005-07-07 72.5 0 4 2021-07-07 72.0 0 - 2013-07-07 72.0 0 - 2008-07-07 72.0 0 5 2020-07-07 71.9 0 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 When I said worst summer ever it wasn't an exaggeration. The combination of high temps and humidity is worse than any start to summer I can remember 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Already approaching mid 80s here, could be my hottest day yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 7 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: When I said worst summer ever it wasn't an exaggeration. The combination of high temps and humidity is worse than any start to summer I can remember there were a few people saying it would be a cool summer.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 16 minutes ago, lee59 said: Already approaching mid 80s here, could be my hottest day yet. No reason to not think every summer will be warmer than the summer before it going forward 1 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 15 minutes ago, qg_omega said: No reason to not think every summer will be warmer than the summer before it going forward That would be hard not to argue... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 15 hours ago, qg_omega said: the guy on channel 7 should be embarrassed for this wrong forecast 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 1 hour ago, SnoSki14 said: When I said worst summer ever it wasn't an exaggeration. The combination of high temps and humidity is worse than any start to summer I can remember oh please no it isnt...for starters it took forever to actually get a 90 degree this year....also 2years ago we were searing with no rain and days and days of upper 90s and sometimes 100 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 88 at 10 AM with dew of 74 for 95 heat index Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 19 minutes ago, winterwarlock said: the guy on channel 7 should be embarrassed for this wrong forecast LOL TV newscasts... no one under 60 watches anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 21 minutes ago, winterwarlock said: the guy on channel 7 should be embarrassed for this wrong forecast what's a humid blend 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 8 Author Share Posted July 8 accuweather's 5 day for central park so yeah channel 7s' #s are too low and also not indicative of much of the viewing area Today 92 Tonight 74 Tomorrow 90/76 Wednesday 88/75 Thursday 85/75 Friday 84/72 Saturday 85/72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 8 Author Share Posted July 8 1 minute ago, forkyfork said: what's a humid blend sounds like a really bad coffee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 5 minutes ago, forkyfork said: what's a humid blend Humid with a blend of clouds and sun I took it as. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 I have no clue how people like this weather. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 59 minutes ago, winterwarlock said: oh please no it isnt...for starters it took forever to actually get a 90 degree this year....also 2years ago we were searing with no rain and days and days of upper 90s and sometimes 100 It's literally the hottest summer on record at Newark and New York City. *The 1993 and 1994 readings are erroneous. The HO-83 hygrothermometer in use at the time had a significant warm bias, particularly on sunny days with light winds. The location near the tarmac at Newark probably worsened the problem, as the fan was drawing in superheated air. On average, the ASOS installation was 1.2F cooler for daytime maximum temperatures, and 1.0F cooler for minimum temperatures. But at Newark, the bias may have been more substantial. *The 1966 readings from Central Park are probably not directly comparable to readings today. Sources: climo_rpt_96_2.pdf (colostate.edu) - Study of 79 first-order climate sites between 1994 & 1995 found an average annual max temperature bias of +1.16F, and an average annual low temperature bias of +0.95F from the HO-83 relative to the ASOS installation. Comparison of ASOS and HO-83 temperatures at Lincoln, Nebraska from November 1991 through October 1992 (noaa.gov) - 12-month study from Lincoln, Nebraska study 1991-92. ASOS was from 1.4 to 2.6F cooler for maximum temperatures every month, and from 0.7 to 2.5F cooler for minimum temperatures. An Investigation of Temperature Discontinuities Introduced by the Installation of the HO-83 Thermometer in: Journal of Climate Volume 8 Issue 5 (1995) (ametsoc.org) - Another study, somewhat smaller estimate of 0.6C bias - actually suggests less bias in summer, but not sure that is correct. The HO-83 Hygro- thermometer « Climate Audit - cites some more sources, particularly about Tuscon and how the NWS could not confirm a global warming signal in the deadly Chicago heat wave of 1995 because the readings were likely inflated by instrument bias Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Like I said, people "feel" it's cooler because they are so acclimated to the heat. I told the Harrisburg crew they should be comparing their summertime temperatures to Richmond, Virginia. It's one of the hottest summers on record at Harrisburg, but compared to historical, 20th century summers in Richmond, it's still a very hot summer just not among the record hottest. I think the New York City crew should do the same. 2024 is among the hottest on record at NYC and EWR, but if you compare NYC to 20th century Richmond and EWR to 20th century RDU then it's still well above the typical summer in those locations during that era, but not among the hottest on record. The DC crew can use Tallahassee or Savannah, Georgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Can't wait for someone to "ackshually" me. The 1966 reading is bogus - the park was 1.2F warmer than the EWR tarmac? GTFO. Yes, it's cooler than 2010, but not by a margin that anyone can discern. And, of course, the 1994 readings are absolute garbage measured by garbage equipment that are not comparable to readings taken before or after that era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 The last time I flew between ISP - MCO (Orlando) and JFK - CLT (Charlotte) the takeoff and landing conditions were perfectly identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 91/77/104 now. Today we AC all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 92 / 73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 I see GFS on the 12z run now is giving us very little rain for late week. Not that I buy that. It does appear that most of the rain is going to miss us to the west on Wednesday, but there should be plenty of heavy downpours around Thursday and Friday. Especially Friday ... that looks like our best chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 ISP and FRG at 90 now, Shirley at 92. Sneaky hot day for the island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 8 Author Share Posted July 8 2 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: I see GFS on the 12z run now is giving us very little rain for late week. Not that I buy that. It does appear that most of the rain is going to miss us to the west on Wednesday, but there should be plenty of heavy downpours around Thursday and Friday. Especially Friday ... that looks like our best chance. It has rain Saturday but splits the area with the heaviest amounts Nam and euro have very little thru Thursday. Cmc still very wet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 1 minute ago, Stormlover74 said: It has rain Saturday but splits the area with the heaviest amounts Yeah it looks off to me. CMC looks better with heavy rain for our area Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 Up to 92 here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted July 8 Author Share Posted July 8 Ukie favors eastern areas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 2 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said: It's literally the hottest summer on record at Newark and New York City. *The 1993 and 1994 readings are erroneous. The HO-83 hygrothermometer in use at the time had a significant warm bias, particularly on sunny days with light winds. The location near the tarmac at Newark probably worsened the problem, as the fan was drawing in superheated air. On average, the ASOS installation was 1.2F cooler for daytime maximum temperatures, and 1.0F cooler for minimum temperatures. But at Newark, the bias may have been more substantial. So it's the hottest summer on record, even though it's only July 8th? Get back to me in two months. It's a hot start to summer, but let the rest play out. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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