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54 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Yup storms blowing up in south jersey 

The one silver lining is that you can turn on the sprinklers for these nuisance summer dry patterns. Almost a July version of January 2022. But most people don’t have snow making equipment to make up for missing the winter snowstorms.;)
 

Time Series Summary for Atlantic City Area, NJ (ThreadEx) - Month of Jan
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1 2022 33.2 0
2 1987 20.3 0
3 2014 18.8 0
4 2016 16.7 0
5 1961 15.9

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4 minutes ago, bluewave said:

The one silver lining is that you can turn on the sprinklers for these nuisance summer dry patterns. Almost a July version of January 2022. But most people don’t have snow making equipment to make up for missing the winter snowstorms.;)
 

Time Series Summary for Atlantic City Area, NJ (ThreadEx) - Month of Jan
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1 2022 33.2 0
2 1987 20.3 0
3 2014 18.8 0
4 2016 16.7 0
5 1961 15.9

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Ha. That was ACY revenge winter after missing out on the epic 20-21 run 

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3 hours ago, forkyfork said:

it's still showing a cluster moving through. we just need storms to organize quickly where there's currently nothing 

Seems to be happening in NW Jersey currently.  Hopefully it holds steady.

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8 minutes ago, 495weatherguy said:

Remember how cool the 1st week of July was on LI?  Seems like a lifetime ago.  Big recovery to get to 77

Yes we have had very few cool days lately. The cool downs are still 85-87

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Records:

Highs:

EWR: 103 (1954)
NYC: 102 (1933)
LGA: 97 (1954)
JFK:  95 (2002)


Lows:

EWR: 56 (1932)
NYC: 57 (1914)
LGA: 62 (1956)
JFK: 58 (1964)


Historical:


1715: Spanish treasure ships, returning from the New World to Spain, encountered a hurricane during the early morning hours on this day. Eleven of the twelve ships were lost near present-day Vero Beach, Florida. 

1949: Lightning struck a baseball field at Baker, Florida during a game. The shortstop and third baseman were killed instantly.

1976 - A stationary thunderstorm produced more than ten inches of rain which funneled into the narrow Thompson River Canyon of northeastern Colorado. A wall of water six to eight feet high wreaked a twenty-five mile path of destruction from Estes Park to Loveland killing 156 persons. The flash flood caught campers, and caused extensive structural and highway damage. Ten miles of U.S. Highway 34 were totally destroyed as the river was twenty feet higher than normal at times. (David Ludlum) (The Weather Channel)

1986 - The temperature at Little Rock, AR, soared to 112 degrees to establish an all-time record high for that location. Morrilton, AR, hit 115 degrees, and daily highs for the month at that location averaged 102 degrees. (The Weather Channel)

1987 - The deadliest tornado in 75 years struck Edmonton, Alberta, killing 26 persons and injuring 200 others. The twister caused more than 75 million dollars damage along its nineteen mile path, leaving 400 families homeless. At the Evergreen Mobile Home Park, up to 200 of the 720 homes were flattened by the tornado. (The National Severe Storms Forecast Center)

1987 - Afternoon highs of 106 degrees at Aberdeen, SD, and 102 degrees at Ottumwa, IA, and Rapid City, SD, established records for the date. It marked the seventh straight day of 100 degree heat for Rapid City. Baltimore, MD, reported a record twenty-two days of 90 degree weather in July. Evening thunderstorms produced golf ball size hail at Lemmon, SD, and wind gusts to 80 mph at Beulah, ND. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data)

1988 - Twenty-one cities in the north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, including Sioux City, IA, with a reading of 107 degrees. The reading of 105 degrees at Minneapolis, MN, was their hottest since 1936. Pierre and Chamberlain, SD, with highs of 108 degrees, were just one degree shy of the hot spot in the nation, Palm Springs, CA. (The National Weather Summary)

1989 - Overnight thunderstorms soaked eastern Kansas and western Missouri with heavy rain. Four and a half inches of rain was reported at Nevada, MO. Evening thunderstorms in Oklahoma produced wind gusts to 75 mph at Covington. Six cities in the north central U.S. reported record high temperatures for the date, including Williston, ND, with a reading of 105 degrees. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary)

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9 hours ago, 495weatherguy said:

And I don’t think we have had nearly the heat NJ has enjoyed

The very strong sea breezes this month limited Islip to only the 9th warmest  and LGA 14th warmest July. Even Newark had a sea breeze influence since it couldn’t make the top 5 warmest like areas further west. FWN and SMQ had their 2nd warmest July west of the sea breeze influence. 

 

Time Series Summary for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY - Month of Jul
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1 1999 78.6 0
2 2019 78.1 0
3 2013 78.0 0
- 2010 78.0 0
4 2020 77.7 0
5 2011 77.6 0
6 1994 77.3 0
7 2022 77.1 0
8 2023 77.0 0
9 2024 76.9 0
10 2016 76.8 0


 

Time Series Summary for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY - Month of Jul
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1 2020 82.9 0
2 2010 82.8 0
3 1999 81.9 0
4 2019 81.5 0
5 2013 81.2 0
6 2022 81.1 0
- 2016 81.1 0
7 1955 80.9 0
8 1966 80.8 0
9 2006 80.7 0
10 1994 80.6 0
11 2023 80.4 0
- 2012 80.4 0
- 2011 80.4 0
- 1952 80.4 0
12 2008 80.0 0
- 1993 80.0 0
13 2018 79.8 0
- 1995 79.8 0
14 2024 79.7 0
15 2002 79.5 0


 

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of Jul
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1 2011 82.7 0
2 2022 82.6 0
3 1993 82.5 0
4 2010 82.3 0
5 1994 81.9 0
6 2024 81.3 0
7 2013 80.9 0
8 2020 80.8 0
- 2012 80.8 0
- 1999 80.8 0
9 2023 80.6 0
- 2019 80.6 0
10 1955 80.5 0



 

Time Series Summary for SUSSEX AIRPORT, NJ - Month of Jul
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1 2020 76.5 0
2 2024 75.7 0
3 2019 75.3 0
4 2023 74.8 0
5 2013 74.6 0
6 2011 74.5 0
7 2022 74.4 0
8 2012 74.3 0
- 2006 74.3 0
9 2010 74.1 2
10 2016 73.9 0


 

Time Series Summary for SOMERSET AIRPORT, NJ - Month of Jul
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1 1999 78.5 1
2 2024 78.3 0
3 2020 78.0 0
4 2022 77.9 0
5 2019 77.5 0
- 2011 77.5 0
6 2013 77.4 0
7 2012 76.9 0
8 2023 76.8 0
- 2003 76.8 25
9 2016 76.7 0
- 2010 76.7 0
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1 hour ago, bluewave said:

The very strong sea breezes this month limited Islip to only the 9th warmest  and LGA 14th warmest July. Even Newark had a sea breeze influence since it couldn’t make the top 5 warmest like areas further west. FWN and SMQ had their 2nd warmest July west of the sea breeze influence. 

 

Time Series Summary for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY - Month of Jul
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1 1999 78.6 0
2 2019 78.1 0
3 2013 78.0 0
- 2010 78.0 0
4 2020 77.7 0
5 2011 77.6 0
6 1994 77.3 0
7 2022 77.1 0
8 2023 77.0 0
9 2024 76.9 0
10 2016 76.8 0


 

Time Series Summary for LAGUARDIA AIRPORT, NY - Month of Jul
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1 2020 82.9 0
2 2010 82.8 0
3 1999 81.9 0
4 2019 81.5 0
5 2013 81.2 0
6 2022 81.1 0
- 2016 81.1 0
7 1955 80.9 0
8 1966 80.8 0
9 2006 80.7 0
10 1994 80.6 0
11 2023 80.4 0
- 2012 80.4 0
- 2011 80.4 0
- 1952 80.4 0
12 2008 80.0 0
- 1993 80.0 0
13 2018 79.8 0
- 1995 79.8 0
14 2024 79.7 0
15 2002 79.5 0


 

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of Jul
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1 2011 82.7 0
2 2022 82.6 0
3 1993 82.5 0
4 2010 82.3 0
5 1994 81.9 0
6 2024 81.3 0
7 2013 80.9 0
8 2020 80.8 0
- 2012 80.8 0
- 1999 80.8 0
9 2023 80.6 0
- 2019 80.6 0
10 1955 80.5 0



 

Time Series Summary for SUSSEX AIRPORT, NJ - Month of Jul
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1 2020 76.5 0
2 2024 75.7 0
3 2019 75.3 0
4 2023 74.8 0
5 2013 74.6 0
6 2011 74.5 0
7 2022 74.4 0
8 2012 74.3 0
- 2006 74.3 0
9 2010 74.1 2
10 2016 73.9 0


 

Time Series Summary for SOMERSET AIRPORT, NJ - Month of Jul
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1 1999 78.5 1
2 2024 78.3 0
3 2020 78.0 0
4 2022 77.9 0
5 2019 77.5 0
- 2011 77.5 0
6 2013 77.4 0
7 2012 76.9 0
8 2023 76.8 0
- 2003 76.8 25
9 2016 76.7 0
- 2010 76.7 0

Yeah, would have thought the +2 at nyc would be higher considering the heat we have had here in central jersey 

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29 minutes ago, Allsnow said:

Yeah, would have thought the +2 at nyc would be higher considering the heat we have had here in central jersey 

Yeah, the areas east of NYC had much lower departures than in NJ due to the much stronger sea breezes this month.

LGA….+0.5

JFK…..+.1.7

ISP…….+1.9

NYC…..+2.1

EWR…..+3.1

FWN…..+3.5

SMQ…..+3.7

Hightstown….Was +5.0 on 7-25 but hasn’t updated for last week yet

 

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11 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, the areas east of NYC had much lower departures than in NJ due to the much stronger sea breezes this month.

LGA….+0.5

JFK…..+.1.7

ISP…….+1.9

NYC…..+2.1

EWR…..+3.1

FWN…..+3.5

SMQ…..+3.7

Hightstown….Was +5.0 on 7-25 but hasn’t updated for last week yet

 

Up here the evenings have been great on these Ambrose Jet days. Nice breeze and temps despite still feeling humid. On the beaches though I’m sure it’s been sandblasting windy which is no fun. 

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17 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Up here the evenings have been great on these Ambrose Jet days. Nice breeze and temps despite still feeling humid. On the beaches though I’m sure it’s been sandblasting windy which is no fun. 

Yeah, that big ridge east of New England with the trough over the Midwest really amps up the local sea breeze circulation. 
 

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See ISP (similar to JFK) was missing inter-hour high maxes yesterday and JFK: 91 and ISP : 82.  The 6 hour window from 1400 - 2000. Saw similar issues in late June and July at JFK.  Unless i am missing somthing

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3 hours ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, the areas east of NYC had much lower departures than in NJ due to the much stronger sea breezes this month.

LGA….+0.5

JFK…..+.1.7

ISP…….+1.9

NYC…..+2.1

EWR…..+3.1

FWN…..+3.5

SMQ…..+3.7

Hightstown….Was +5.0 on 7-25 but hasn’t updated for last week yet

 

Another thing to keep in mind is how they define normals. They keep jacking the so-called "normal" value up and up, especially in the summertime. Really the should be called climatological abnormals. In looking through the old records, I noticed the July normal mean temperature has been raised a full 3.6F (2.0C) for both Erie, Pennsylvania and Toledo, Ohio, since the 1980s. For these locations, the NWS now says a normal August is about 2F warmer than a normal July 35 years ago, and a normal June is nearly as warm as a normal July 35 years. At what point are they going to start telling us its normal for September to be warmer than a normal July in the late 20th century?

Just took a look at LaGuardia, and it's not up quite as much, but still +2.8F from the 1980s. Curiously, the July mean at Newark is only up +1.4F since the 1980s. It's an odd dynamic. A normal July at EWR was considered to be 0.4F warmer than a normal July at LGA in the 1980s. Today, a normal July at EWR is considered to be 1.1F cooler than a normal July at LGA. But if you look at recent years, it looks like EWR is again the warm spot among the two in the month of July. Not sure why they would bounce around like that, but I would expect EWR's normal to be increased precipitously in another 7 years.

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3 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Another thing to keep in mind is how they define normals. They keep jacking the so-called "normal" value up and up, especially in the summertime. Really the should be called climatological abnormals. In looking through the old records, I noticed the July normal mean temperature has been raised a full 3.6F (2.0C) for both Erie, Pennsylvania and Toledo, Ohio, since the 1980s. For these locations, the NWS now says a normal August is about 2F warmer than a normal July 35 years ago, and a normal June is nearly as warm as a normal July 35 years. At what point are they going to start telling us its normal for September to be warmer than a normal July in the late 20th century?

Just took a look at LaGuardia, and it's not up quite as much, but still +2.8F from the 1980s. Curiously, the July mean at Newark is only up +1.4F since the 1980s. It's an odd dynamic. A normal July at EWR was considered to be 0.4F warmer than a normal July at LGA in the 1980s. Today, a normal July at EWR is considered to be 1.1F cooler than a normal July at LGA. But if you look at recent years, it looks like EWR is again the warm spot among the two in the month of July. Not sure why they would bounce around like that, but I would expect EWR's normal to be increased precipitously in another 7 years.

That’s why my previous post was the rankings for the stations which are the absolutes rather than departures which change every 10 years. But the sea breeze influence was evident in both datasets. The sea breeze prevented Newark from having a 90° average high for July like Harrison and SMQ did. 
 

Time Series Summary for SOMERSET AIRPORT, NJ - Month of Jul
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1 1999 92.2 1
2 2022 91.5 0
3 2011 90.3 0
4 2024 90.0 0
5 2020 89.7 0
6 2010 89.4 0
7 2019 89.2 0
- 2012 89.2 0
- 2003 89.2 25
8 2016 88.9 0
9 2023 88.2 0
10 2006 88.0 0


 

Time Series Summary for HARRISON, NJ - Month of Jul
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1 2011 91.3 1
2 2022 91.0 0
3 2010 90.8 1
4 2019 90.6 0
- 2012 90.6 2
5 2024 90.5 0
6 2020 90.3 0
7 2002 89.7 0
8 2023 89.5 0
9 2016 88.9 0
10 2018 88.6 0


 

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of Jul
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1 2011 92.5 0
2 1993 92.2 0
3 2022 92.1 0
- 2010 92.1 0
4 1994 90.4 0
5 1999 90.2 0
6 2012 90.1 0
7 1966 90.0 0
- 1955 90.0 0
8 2024 89.7 0
- 1988 89.7 0
9 2019 89.5 0
10 1952 89.4 0
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On 7/27/2024 at 9:36 AM, FPizz said:

I feel like for the past couple years their temps have been running a little high on sunny days.  That's like 4 miles from me and is usually the highest temp in the area. @mgerb , have you ever noticed that or am I just wrong haha.  

Both Duke Farms and KSMQ reported max temperatures of 99 F on Thursday, August 1.   

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58 minutes ago, EWR757 said:

Both Duke Farms and KSMQ reported max temperatures of 99 F on Thursday, August 1.   

I was 97, but today wasn't totally sunny around the area so their temps lived better with surrounding areas and all the stations.

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