klw Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Live shot from my hood No! Try not! Dew or dew not, there is no try. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Let’s dew this Looks like some relief in about a week, confused emojis be damned. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 minutes ago, klw said: Live blog https://www.vermontpublic.org/live-updates/live-updates-flash-flooding-barre-city-beryl Looks like the Winooski got to major flood but 5’ below the record which I think was a year ago. Crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 minutes ago, klw said: He might not be able to get to Dewey Hill Dewey Hill and Wood Road It must get very Dewey on that Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCORH4L Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 VT needs to update their FEMA flood maps and design storm criteria for culvert sizing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 minutes ago, NoCORH4L said: VT needs to update their FEMA flood maps and design storm criteria for culvert sizing. Probably won’t help when you have 4-6” of rain in 2 hours. That’s the real issue. Record dews and PWATs on 4K mountains isn’t a good recipe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 29 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Looks like some relief in about a week, confused emojis be damned. I’m thinking it starts Wednesday. But dew knows 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 20 minutes ago, NoCORH4L said: VT needs to update their FEMA flood maps and design storm criteria for culvert sizing. Good article on it. It's a pay site but you may get one free. https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/07/02/science/massachusetts-berkshires-culverts-bridges-stormwater-climate-change/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdxken Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Just now, HoarfrostHubb said: I’m thinking it starts Wednesday. But dew knows You must be a dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 2 hours ago, powderfreak said: I mean, this state is starting to spend so much money putting roads back together every summer… that if this stuff is going to keep on happening, might need to rethink some of this. The amount of road closures in VT is insane this morning. The 1-year anniversary of the 500-year flood . CC advocates focus on coastal areas almost too exclusively and neglect to point out the impact of interior mountainous areas where precip is squeezed out and runoff is exasperated. State and the federal agencies need to plan and execute progressive strategies or communities will exhaust funds, and flee, from continuous band-aid type responses. There is a limit to how much rebuilding people and communities can do… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisrotary12 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 This weather blows. Can’t even get storms. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 42 minutes ago, klw said: Dewey Hill and Wood Road So you’re telling me Dewey and Wood intersect? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 6 minutes ago, dendrite said: So you’re telling me Dewey and Wood intersect? There is a Dewpoint Ln in Center Harbor right when you get into town lol. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 12 minutes ago, dendrite said: So you’re telling me Dewey and Wood intersect? Lol .. I caught that earlier too. It’s a match made in heaven 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 54 minutes ago, NoCORH4L said: VT needs to update their FEMA flood maps and design storm criteria for culvert sizing. We have been working on that since Irene. It's just hard to keep up. The story below is from last year. https://www.vermontpublic.org/local-news/2023-07-25/vermont-spent-millions-on-flood-mitigation-after-tropical-storm-irene-did-it-work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 13 hours ago, Paleocene said: I am visiting your subforum (from my mid atlantic home). I am on the shore of moosehead lake, and I hope it rains extremely hard tonight and washes out the gravel road I'm back several miles deep on. I will then be stuck here, which is great, as I am a climate refugee from my near-DC home where it is always 100° this time of year. Incidentally, some locals up here were discussing how this heat is atypical this time of year. Y'all have it nice up here in the summer. Nice view from atop Mt. Kineo this morning. Staying at The Birches? Greenville reported 1.51" between 2 and 8 AM, Twentymile Road might have taken some damage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Morning mins. 6z-12z anyway… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, NoCORH4L said: VT needs to update their FEMA flood maps and design storm criteria for culvert sizing. 6 minutes ago, mreaves said: We have been working on that since Irene. It's just hard to keep up. The story below is from last year. https://www.vermontpublic.org/local-news/2023-07-25/vermont-spent-millions-on-flood-mitigation-after-tropical-storm-irene-did-it-work Another article from last year with a similar theme After Irene, Vermont ‘built back smarter.’ It has more work to do. Anecdotally, on a similar note, the story was the same with our snowmobile trail system. Bridges and culverts that had been addressed fared well while older infrastructure did not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paleocene Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 7 minutes ago, tamarack said: Staying at The Birches? Greenville reported 1.51" between 2 and 8 AM, Twentymile Road might have taken some damage. We're at a privately owned/rented cabin that is off a side road which connects to Lily Bay road. Closer to Greenville. There was heavy rain overnight but nothing biblical. We have not ventured out yet but I will be surprised if there is road damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 3 hours ago, powderfreak said: This is real bad. Most of this area is destroyed through C/N VT. The ski area is cut off from town. Stowe town closures… VT-ALERT: Mountain Road (VT108) at Top Notch Resort; Moscow Rd at Barrows Rd; Nebraska Valley Rd; Nebraska Valley Rd beyond the Town Gravel Pit; Percy Hill Rd in area of 215 Percy Hill; Gold Brook Rd from Gold Brook Circle to Stowe Hollow Rd.; Dewey Hill Rd closed from Gold Brook Rd to Ayers Farm; North Hollow Rd above Bryan Rd; West Hill Rd (between Mayo Farm Road and VT100); Moscow Rd closed from Rt 100 to River Rd; and Bouchard Rd are closed in Stowe due to floodwaters. Anticipated reopen time is unknown. Please contact Stowe Emergency Operations Center at 802-585-1882 for more information. Reminds me of Jay Maine on 6/29/23, with 4-6" in 2 hours, only it's more widespread in VT. Several main roads were closed for months and at least one secondary road still hasn't been put back together - fortunately, residents nearby have other access. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 https://x.com/mattalltradesb/status/1811388195319185812?s=46&t=XiRWubWbpExod2fEMVycpA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 12 minutes ago, Paleocene said: We're at a privately owned/rented cabin that is off a side road which connects to Lily Bay road. Closer to Greenville. There was heavy rain overnight but nothing biblical. We have not ventured out yet but I will be surprised if there is road damage. My guess was on the wrong side of the lake. Lily Bay State Park is wonderful, but if that cabin is on/near the shore, you don't need the park. 1.93" from this event, with more than one inch 4-4:45 yesterday afternoon from a separate (but related) band south of the major dumping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 41 minutes ago, dendrite said: Morning mins. 6z-12z anyway… It's the regional integral that's noteworthy for me. We've seen urban elevated lows due to very local island effects all the time where lows don't fall beneath the low 70s. Even mid to upper 70s isn't that uncommon 'down town' during heat waves. But in this situation ... we're not in a heat wave for one ( tho close in some cases?). Regionally, a well mixed breeziness overnight where the bucolic settings are just as a torrid as any urban centers. Noting the 60s DPs in PA to N NYS. It's funny cuz we've often noted that we don't contribute to global warming very well with the high temperature behavior in our region of the continent. We do, however, seem to perform very well with nighttime lows. Well this ^ is a 'roided up version of that, huh. Maybe we can single contribution move the global needle a decimal or two haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 6 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: It's the regional integral that's noteworthy for me. We've seen urban elevated lows due to very local island effects all the time where lows don't fall beneath the low 70s. Even mid to upper 70s isn't that uncommon 'down town' during heat waves. But in this situation ... we're not in a heat wave for one ( tho close in some cases?). But regionally, a well mixed breeziness overnight where the bucolic settings are just as a torrid as any urban centers. Noting the 60s DPs in PA to N NYS. It's funny cuz we've often noted that we don't contribute to global warming very well with the high temperature behavior in our region of the continent. We do, however, seem to perform very well with nighttime lows. Well this ^ is a 'roided up version of that, huh. Maybe we can single contribution move the global needles a decimal or two haha I am certainly in a heatwave...4 consecutive days above 90*. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 6 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: It's the regional integral that's noteworthy for me. We've seen urban elevated lows due to very local island effects all the time where lows don't fall beneath the low 70s. Even mid to upper 70s isn't that uncommon 'down town' during heat waves. But in this situation ... we're not in a heat wave for one ( tho close in some cases?). But regionally, a well mixed breeziness overnight where the bucolic settings are just as a torrid as any urban centers. Noting the 60s DPs in PA to N NYS. It's funny cuz we've often noted that we don't contribute to global warming very well with the high temperature behavior in our region of the continent. We do, however, seem to perform very well with nighttime lows. Well this ^ is a 'roided up version of that, huh. Maybe we can single contribution move the global needles a decimal or two haha Some places (KFIT) have been in a heat wave. But otherwise yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Looks like some relief in about a week, confused emojis be damned. That will be the first step down and I think the highest heat of the Summer will then be in our rearview mirror. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 From the weather weenie perspective, yesterday afternoon and evening were pretty unique. High heat and humidity but a steady wind made it feel Hawaii comfortable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 That's unreal in VT. A year to the day and almost as bad. I guess at least this time it was in a much narrower area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 yeah, I wasn't sure guys. not surprising. But this has gone down as advertised last week ( fwiw - ) The temperature side of this routine hasn't been extraordinary. I wrote that a 'seasonal heat wave' was favored - but that doesn't include people's perceptions and/or HI valuations due to bathtub DPs. haha. When it's 91/77 ... you're 106ing is performing better than the 96/63 stuff we used to get in prior climate generations ... before Gaia started slowly turning up the fire under the toads in the pan. heh. But last week ... I mean one is not inclined to believe DP prognostics at a scalar degree. Not even sure 75 to 80 was modeled - nor by hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 This morning around dawn we were getting these weird tiny droplet quick showers that barely made enough sound through the trees to be audible. They lasted about 30 seconds ... not enough to completely wet the roads. Radar showed just single pixels of lowest DBZ possible ... like freckles across the scans. The T/TD was 78/77 here. It's almost like the the atmosphere was at a theta-e threshold were it simply could not hold more water. Thermodynamic shedding, so to speak. The feel of the air has the 'metalic warmth' I call it - when it seems like you can feel the infrared dosing from the air itself ( probably like those that 'smell rain'). More tropical than Aruba 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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