WxWatcher007 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 13 minutes ago, gymengineer said: Quote to bump this radar loop. Still looking formidable in the last frames. Recon also finding winds stronger than what all models were showing by this time. It has weakened of course but the resilience has been impressive. Having a solid inner core has really been key to keeping Beryl an over performer. We have not seen nearly the erosion you’d expect under that ribbon of high shear. I think the shear being analyzed has been lesser in magnitude than what some guidance expected. Even lower shear can take a toll over time, so it’ll be interesting to see what happens in the next day. One particular area of interest for me is convection. We’ve seen Beryl continue to fire deep convection that has been persistent enough to frequently wrap around the center, even if transiently. With very high OHC and SSTs on the path to the Yucatán, how much does this aid in maintaining the strength of the system? We will see how the landfall in the Yucatán impacts the core, as that’ll be critical to the intensity and track in the Gulf. It looks like there’s a decent consensus now, but it would not take much for slight shifts north or south. The Euro has maintained that this’ll be on the southern envelope of guidance. However, note that the stronger members are still further north. Meanwhile, much of the other guidance continues to settle further north, but the degree remains in question. Notably perhaps, many of this morning’s hurricane models shifted slightly north. We’ll see if that changes. Meanwhile other guidance is again near the border. The 00z super ensemble was further south of these models, but we’ll see if that changes at 12z. Any shifts, particularly with a NW heading likely, will have meaningful impacts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Hurricane Beryl Advisory Number 24 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL022024 1100 AM EDT Thu Jul 04 2024 ...CENTER OF BERYL MOVING AWAY FROM THE CAYMAN ISLANDS... ...STRONG WINDS, DANGEROUS STORM SURGE, AND DAMAGING WAVES EXPECTED ON THE COAST OF THE YUCATAN PENINSULA OF MEXICO BY EARLY FRIDAY... SUMMARY OF 1100 AM EDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION ----------------------------------------------- LOCATION...19.0N 82.6W ABOUT 95 MI...150 KM WSW OF GRAND CAYMAN ABOUT 330 MI...530 KM ESE OF TULUM MEXICO MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...115 MPH...185 KM/H PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 285 DEGREES AT 18 MPH...30 KM/H MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...971 MB...28.68 INCHES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Hurricane Beryl Discussion Number 24 NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL022024 1100 AM EDT Thu Jul 04 2024 Beryl continues to weaken due to the effects of westerly shear. Radar data from the Cayman Islands shows that the eyewall is open to the south and that there is very little precipitation occurring in the southwestern semicircle. This matches the asymmetric cloud pattern seen in satellite imagery. Data from the NOAA and Air Force Reserve Hurricane Hunters support surface winds of 90-100 kt, and that the central pressure has risen to near 971 mb. Based on this, the initial intensity is reduced to a possibly generous 100 kt. The initial wind radii have be modified downward based on the aircraft data. The initial motion is 285/16. There is little change in either the track forecast philosophy or the track forecast from the previous advisory. A large ridge centered over the southeastern U.S. should cause Beryl to move westward or west-northwestward during the next day or two, with the model guidance tightly clustered about a landfall on the Yucatan Peninsula just before 24 h and emerging into the southwestern Gulf of Mexico just after 36 h. After that, Beryl should turn northwest toward a developing break in the subtropical ridge caused by a mid-latitude trough over the central United States. This general motion should continue until the cyclone makes landfall on the western Gulf coast near 96 h. While the guidance has come into better agreement, there is a spread in the guidance landfall points from northeastern Mexico to the middle Texas coast, and users are reminded that the average error at day 4 is about 150 miles. Thus, it is still too early to pinpoint a specific region for the worst hazards. The new official forecast is similar to, but a touch slower than, the previous forecast and it lies close to the consensus models. Water vapor imagery continues to show a upper-level trough moving west-southwestward over the southern Gulf of Mexico, with westerly flow on the south side of this system helping to impart moderate-to-strong shear over Beryl. While the shear could decrease some during the next 24 h, it is unlikely to decrease enough to stop Beryl from steadily weakening until landfall on the Yucatan Peninsula. This part of the new intensity forecast follows the trend of the intensity guidance. Beryl should weaken more after landfall. There is uncertainty in how much shear the cyclone may encounter over the Gulf of Mexico, but the guidance shows slow intensification during that time. This is reflected in the new intensity forecast that brings the system back to hurricane strength right at landfall on the western Gulf coast. FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INIT 04/1500Z 19.0N 82.6W 100 KT 115 MPH 12H 05/0000Z 19.5N 85.1W 90 KT 105 MPH 24H 05/1200Z 20.1N 87.9W 70 KT 80 MPH...INLAND 36H 06/0000Z 20.9N 90.3W 50 KT 60 MPH...INLAND 48H 06/1200Z 22.0N 92.4W 50 KT 60 MPH...OVER WATER 60H 07/0000Z 23.0N 94.2W 55 KT 65 MPH 72H 07/1200Z 23.9N 95.7W 60 KT 70 MPH 96H 08/1200Z 25.5N 97.5W 65 KT 75 MPH...INLAND 120H 09/1200Z 28.0N 99.5W 30 KT 35 MPH...INLAND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 NHC 11AM forecast yesterday: 36H 05/0000Z 19.0N 85.5W 90 KT 105 MPH NHC 5AM forecast today: 12H 04/1800Z 19.0N 83.6W 95 KT 110 MPH NHC 11AM actual location: INIT 04/1500Z 19.0N 82.6W 100 KT 115 MPH By comparing these 3, one can see the trend that she gets as far N as 19.0N at a further E longitude: note that current location of 19.0N is with longitude of 82.6W vs 85.5W on yesterday’s 11AM forecast and 83.6W on today’s 5AM forecast. The implications are that this may mean a further N landfall in the W Gulf than earlier forecasted. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 The models are all too far south with the track today. The eye of Beryl is now near the point that is due south of the Isle of Youth and west of Grand Cayman. None of the GFS, Euro, Canadian, ICON, are that far north. And, the Cayman radar shows the wnw track has not stopped. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BooneWX Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Beryl: 2 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BooneWX Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Beryl could be an entirely different beast in the GOM if it continues its trajectory. It’s looking less and less likely that this thing hits the widest part of the Yucatán. If I’m in Texas, I’m getting a little sweaty this morning. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 12Z global model runs vs earlier runs: -ICON: Matagorda, TX (furthest SW yet) after many runs at Galveston -GFS: ~60 miles S of TX border (slightly S of last 3 runs) -CMC: ~125 miles S of TX border (slightly further S of last 2 runs) -UKMET: ~90 miles S of TX border, which may be slightly further N than last run and is ~55 miles N of yesterday’s 12Z run -Euro: out next hour 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 11 minutes ago, GaWx said: 12Z global model runs vs earlier runs: -ICON: Matagorda, TX (furthest SW yet) after many runs at Galveston -GFS: ~60 miles S of TX border (slightly S of last 3 runs) -CMC: ~125 miles S of TX border (slightly further S of last 2 runs) -UKMET: ~90 miles S of TX border, which may be slightly further N than last run and is ~55 miles N of yesterday’s 12Z run -Euro: out next hour Thanks. Still a lot of uncertainty in the Gulf. We’ll see what the 12z hurricane model runs think on intensity and track. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmx Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 A good reference of which models are handling Beryl better for the GOM is whether it hits the Yucatan near 19N (like the CMC, Ukie and 06z Euro do) or 20N (like the GFS and others do). Currently it is at ~19.1N, and a more westward track appears to have begun according to radar and recon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmx Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 One thing is for sure, the environmental conditions sure look much better in modeling world than what they were forecasted to be 24 hours ago. The ULL moves away from Beryl faster, with a greater separation between the two, with lot less shear impacting the cyclone, and an ULAC building atop Beryl. If it has a good structure post-Yucatan, then it can intensify significantly before the W GOM LF. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g0ldl10n Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Microwave imaging from the last several hours showed no distinct eye, but in the past hour or so, it seems to be taking shape again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmx Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 The ULL was pinched off the TUTT earlier today and is positioned to the WNW of Beryl. If the distance between the two widens, by the ULL retrograding at a faster pace than Beryl, and/or the ULL filling up and weakening then we would get a very favorable environment in the GOM 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Post the link for the microwave imaging? TIA.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g0ldl10n Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 @40/70 Benchmark here ya go https://tropic.ssec.wisc.edu/real-time/mimtc/2024_02L/web/mainpage.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 The 12Z UKMET has Beryl already at 85.4W when at 19.0N at 8PM EDT/7PM CDT today. But regarding the 11AM EDT/10AM CDT actual position, the NHC was already up to 19.0N with her only to 82.6W. That means she was a whopping ~185 miles E of the 12Z UKMET 7PM CDT position. That implies to me that the UKMET is likely going to verify too far S when it reaches the W GOM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmx Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 This is another source for MW imagery @40/70 Benchmark https://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/TC.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmx Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 3 minutes ago, GaWx said: The 12Z UKMET has Beryl already at 85.4W when at 19.0N at 7PM CDT today. But regarding the 10AM CDT actual position, the NHC was already up to 19.0N with her only to 82.6W. That means she’s now a whopping ~185 miles E of the 12Z UKMET 7PM position. That implies to me that the UKMET is likely going to verify too far S when it reaches the W GOM. The thing is if that the Ukie, CMC and Euro all three have a due west path starting around 19N (which is right now) until the Yucatan, while the GFS has a more poleward track. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebman Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 2 hours ago, BooneWX said: Beryl could be an entirely different beast in the GOM if it continues its trajectory. It’s looking less and less likely that this thing hits the widest part of the Yucatán. If I’m in Texas, I’m getting a little sweaty this morning. Yeah it does look more concerning for Texas but the system IS showing some slow weakening. Max sustained winds at 115mph is sure better than 165. Beryl is not going to slow down and be like Allison. As long as she keeps on moving, should not be too bad. We can handle a few inches of rain, if we even get that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 12Z Euro: slightly N of its 0Z run and near yesterday’s 12Z run; it is ~90 miles S of TX border, which is where 12Z UKMET is and is between 12Z GFS and 12Z CMC So, from N to S for 12Z global runs: ICON (Matagorda) GFS (60 miles S of TX border) Euro/UKMET (90 miles S of TX border) CMC (125 miles S of TX border) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmx Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Recon definitely shows a continued gradual weakening, but I think current radar and satellite shows that trend may have halted, if not starting to reverse a bit, at least structure wise. Deepening and intensification may follow suit. I think that the reason is that shear may be abating a bit, due to what I explained above, the ULL pinching off the TUTT, the TUTT slowly lifting up and the ULL redirecting part of the upper level winds around it, instead of impinging the TC. Not saying that it will explode or anything of that sort, but I can see it steady state (or slightly strengthen) before the Yucatan LF. Next recon will dissipate any questions about the weakening trend halting for the time being. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebman Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 I am hugging the CMC like a long lost lover. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 41 minutes ago, g0ldl10n said: Microwave imaging from the last several hours showed no distinct eye, but in the past hour or so, it seems to be taking shape again. Yeah on radar it’s ragged but clearly defined. Recon’s last VDM said the following but it keeps trying to rebuild. Remarks Section - Additional Remarks... EYEWALL BCMG MORE RAGGED, WEAKNESS TO THE NE IN ADDITION TO BEING OPEN ON THE WEST 6 minutes ago, wxmx said: Recon definitely shows a continued gradual weakening, but I think current radar and satellite shows that trend may have halted, if not starting to reverse a bit, at least structure wise. Deepening and intensification may follow suit. I think that the reason is that shear may be abating a bit, due to what I explained above, the ULL pinching off the TUTT, the TUTT slowly lifting up and the ULL redirecting part of the upper level winds around it, instead of impinging the TC. Not saying that it will explode or anything of that sort, but I can see it steady state (or slightly strengthen) before the Yucatan LF. Next recon will dissipate any questions about the weakening trend halting for the time being. Agree—going back to what I said earlier about the convection, this really has seemed to help Beryl maintain a minimum level of inner core stability sufficient for reorganization whenever shear tries to rip the vortex apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 BULLETIN Hurricane Beryl Intermediate Advisory Number 24A NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL022024 200 PM EDT Thu Jul 04 2024 ...CENTER OF BERYL MOVING ACROSS THE NORTHWESTERN CARIBBEAN SEA... ...STRONG WINDS, DANGEROUS STORM SURGE, AND DAMAGING WAVES EXPECTED ON THE COAST OF THE YUCATAN PENINSULA OF MEXICO BY EARLY FRIDAY... SUMMARY OF 200 PM EDT...1800 UTC...INFORMATION ---------------------------------------------- LOCATION...19.2N 83.4W ABOUT 135 MI...215 KM W OF GRAND CAYMAN ABOUT 275 MI...445 KM ESE OF TULUM MEXICO MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...110 MPH...175 KM/H PRESENT MOVEMENT...WNW OR 285 DEGREES AT 18 MPH...30 KM/H MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...974 MB...28.76 INCHES 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriPol Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 She's finally lost major hurricane status. FINALLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxWatcher007 Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 12z Euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Beryl has produced 27.7 ACE so far. Amazing for a July storm. Will probably top 30 when all is said and done. https://tropical.atmos.colostate.edu/Realtime/index.php?loc=northatlantic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed, snow and hurricane fan Posted July 4 Author Share Posted July 4 26 minutes ago, wxmx said: The thing is if that the Ukie, CMC and Euro all three have a due west path starting around 19N (which is right now) until the Yucatan, while the GFS has a more poleward track. Wobble or trend? Satellite and Cayman radar seems to be showing movement almost due W, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed, snow and hurricane fan Posted July 4 Author Share Posted July 4 His job is tropical forecasting for private clients and he doesn't have to hedge his bets in the interest of public safety. Re: ATL: BERYL - Hurricane - Discussion #2420 Postby wxman57 » Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:30 pm Don't read too much into wobbles. Should track south of Cozumel (maybe not too far south) and make landfall south of Brownsville. Of course, the key will be how much the core is destroyed over the Yucatan tomorrow. If it's really torn up, then a farther south track is likely. HAFS-A and HAFS-B shifted south to near Tampico. Levi has a new video just published: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpC6Z_OCI-0 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normandy Posted July 4 Share Posted July 4 Come on man don’t post S2K bullshit on here. The mets AND amateurs here are far more knowledgeable than him 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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