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Winter 2024-25 Discussion/Speculation


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3 hours ago, North Balti Zen said:

Pretty much resigned to, in literally any given upcoming winter, needing to chase to see legit snow.   Gonna start tracking lake effect events, maybe. 

The DE beach has worked out for me in recent winters lol. Both times I was targeting Canaan, but the bigger threat was the far eastern lowlands. I should have done it again in Jan 22, but stayed put for moderate snows at home.

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On 10/23/2024 at 7:50 AM, 40/70 Benchmark said:

I would look for another 1995-1996, 2002-2003, 2009-2010 type of season around the turn of the decade.

Will you guarantee that like what was  an absolute guarantee here last year that  winter weather would return after that one Jan shot  and Never Did  here?
Somehow NHC can predict within 50 miles 5 days out where a hurricane will hit but NWS can’t get path of a low pressure in winter correct at 2 days out?????

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17 minutes ago, CAPE said:

Jebman goes pretty far back. He has made some hilarious posts. There was a series from about 10 years ago that were epic.. winter of 2014-15 I think.

The greatest post of all time on this forum was during winter 2015 when he wrote the most epic tirade I’ve ever seen against a New Englander bragging about some MECS they had (which was a bust down here). Jebman and I both tried searching for it awhile back but determined someone must have deleted it. I wish I had saved it!

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Just now, PrinceFrederickWx said:

The greatest post of all time on this forum was during winter 2015 when he wrote the most epic tirade I’ve ever seen against a New Englander bragging about some MECS they had (which was a bust down here). Jebman and I both tried searching for it awhile back but determined someone must have deleted it. I wish I had saved it!

That's the one. It is still in the threads somewhere. Do a search.

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6 hours ago, SnowenOutThere said:

Of all people to judge someone else's posts as nonsensical I'm not entirely sure you should be.

My posts are based on intelligence based on the past 100+ years of climatology.

Yours are probably based on a warped brain from 36 years of Nonsense.

But, I do wish you well.

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1 hour ago, PrinceFrederickWx said:

As I said, he and I tried but couldn’t find it, even with advanced search. Anyone else is welcome to look for it!

Ah sorry I didn't read your post very thoroughly lol. I did find it and I think I reposted it several years ago, but not sure the thread. 

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16 hours ago, CAPE said:

Jebman goes pretty far back. He has made some hilarious posts. There was a series from about 10 years ago that were epic.. winter of 2014-15 I think.

Let us not forget that Jeb is also the reigning winner of the summer temperature contest. (I think he even surprises himself at times.)

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20 minutes ago, JenkinsJinkies said:

I expect it to be near the lower ends in each band.

3-5 for the metros

<1 for Richmond

40-45 for Mt. PSU

It won't go down like that..I will wait for our snow contest to tell me where things stand...I'm going big..and not just because I am an idiot...mostly but not entirely

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On 10/24/2024 at 1:32 PM, WEATHER53 said:

Will you guarantee that like what was  an absolute guarantee here last year that  winter weather would return after that one Jan shot  and Never Did  here?
Somehow NHC can predict within 50 miles 5 days out where a hurricane will hit but NWS can’t get path of a low pressure in winter correct at 2 days out?????

I think its probably easier for NWP to resolve dominant synoptic features like a category 4/5 hurricane or the superstorm in 93 than some of the discreet events significant to our snowfall in winter.  A deep enough pressure system becomes a bully vs getting impacted significantly by other discreet variables.  

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2 minutes ago, stormy said:

Possibly no value, but the long term Enso says we will likely have have a below normal snowfall winter with La Nina.   Cape, give me hope!!!!  

Not a lock that we have a legit Nina yet. Could end up a cold neutral. My hope hinges on most guidance hinting at a -EPO, a stretched, somewhat southward displaced TPV, and some hints of neg NAO episodes. Just have to wait and see how the pattern actually evolves, and as usual, hope we get some luck with wave timing and cold enough air mass.

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Just now, Maestrobjwa said:

What do y'all think about what it could look like up at that Liberty Resort in PA this year? I'm not familiar with how this climo has been up there. If there's potential I may try skiing for the first time this year...just to see some snow, lol

There is always Wisp or Canaan. A bit further of a drive but worth it. Pretty much a guarantee there will be enough cold/snow to ski there in any winter.

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7 minutes ago, CAPE said:

There is always Wisp or Canaan. A bit further of a drive but worth it. Pretty much a guarantee there will be enough cold/snow to ski there in any winter.

We and a few other families ended up getting a house at Wisp for a long first weekend of February next year.

We went for a few days after Christmas last year and it was pretty awful even at the top of the mountain - pouring rain on the drive out and 45 degrees and very little snow on the slopes while there (but a couple inches of snow overnight on our last night). I suggested we go in pretty much peak season so I'm hoping to get a real winter fix while we're out there...but definitely wouldn't mind heading out after a nice stretch of winter back here!

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What do y'all think about what it could look like up at that Liberty Resort in PA this year? I'm not familiar with how this climo has been up there. If there's potential I may try skiing for the first time this year...just to see some snow, lol

Liberty will do better than here… as will many spots.

Definitely gonna chase this year if it’s looking grim, or if there is a storm that just looks too good to skip. Lots of PTO banked and may need some good vibe distractions. Snow ain’t that reliable for that!
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28 minutes ago, mattie g said:

We and a few other families ended up getting a house at Wisp for a long first weekend of February next year.

We went for a few days after Christmas last year and it was pretty awful even at the top of the mountain - pouring rain on the drive out and 45 degrees and very little snow on the slopes while there (but a couple inches of snow overnight on our last night). I suggested we go in pretty much peak season so I'm hoping to get a real winter fix while we're out there...but definitely wouldn't mind heading out after a nice stretch of winter back here!

So it’s going to shoot into the 70s that week. Got it.

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54 minutes ago, CAPE said:

Not a lock that we have a legit Nina yet. Could end up a cold neutral. My hope hinges on most guidance hinting at a -EPO, a stretched, somewhat southward displaced TPV, and some hints of neg NAO episodes. Just have to wait and see how the pattern actually evolves, and as usual, hope we get some luck with wave timing and cold enough air mass.

The latest CPC info says a -.6 - .7 .  This certainly will be marginal but this level if accurate will be a downer for winter snowfall.  Moderate La Nina's don't smile on us for snowfall.

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3 hours ago, Maestrobjwa said:

What do y'all think about what it could look like up at that Liberty Resort in PA this year? I'm not familiar with how this climo has been up there. If there's potential I may try skiing for the first time this year...just to see some snow, lol

I live 20 minutes from Liberty. You need to head further west to see more natural snow. Liberty is ok but they don't get lake effect like Wisp, Cannan or 7 springs can get. Last year they were only open for about 6 or 7 weeks. Very rough , short year for them.

I really like Wisp. My kids are just getting into skiing and there were alot of easy trails for them. I'm about 2 hours from wisp and we did a couple day trips there to ski last year

 

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