*Flash* Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 On 10/18/2024 at 7:54 PM, John1122 said: See the NOAA winter forecast is a copy/paste La Nina map. That was the first thing that came to mind when I saw their first call. Like some, I put little stock in those copy/paste maps this time of year. We're still a month away before we know how the first half is going to play out. It's mostly banter and speculation at this point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boone Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 This Fall is getting the 2016 vibe. I pray no severe Forest Fires break out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwagner88 Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 15 hours ago, Daniel Boone said: This Fall is getting the 2016 vibe. I pray no severe Forest Fires break out. I've actually been pretty worried about the health consequences this dry weather will have for the areas that were inundated with feet of mud following the floods. That mud is going to (and probably already is) turn into dust and become airborne. There's no telling what sort of nasty stuff is in it. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 After Helene, it has gone bone dry. Now, that dry weather is merciful to those drying to clean up and rebuild. It would have been next to impossible(if the rains continued) to fix anything with the amount of mud. There are also people living in tents and modified shelter right now. So, it is probably a blessing to them. But yeah for all the reasons mentioned above, there are potential problems ahead if we don't get some rain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boone Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 18 minutes ago, Carvers Gap said: After Helene, it has gone bone dry. Now, that dry weather is merciful to those drying to clean up and rebuild. It would have been next to impossible(if the rains continued) to fix anything with the amount of mud. There are also people living in tents and modified shelter right now. So, it is probably a blessing to them. But yeah for all the reasons mentioned above, there are potential problems ahead if we don't get some rain. Agree on the needed dryout time and workable weather. Wagner hit on something that id put some thought to as well but, not to the extent as him. Allergies is what I knew it would lend to being more prominent. I was driving down the Road yesterday and someone apparently pulled out of a dusty driveway well ahead of me as I ran through a large cloud of Dust. Had Window down as was so nice out. I began sneezing with a runny nose not long afterward that continued to plague me all night. Even after taking allergy medicine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1122 Posted October 23 Author Share Posted October 23 I'm hoping to squeeze out a tenth Friday night. Fortunately, the pre event and Helene dumped so much rain that the deeper soil is very moist still. In 2016 the deeper soil went dry. Root systems were burning here, well underground. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boone Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 2 hours ago, John1122 said: I'm hoping to squeeze out a tenth Friday night. Fortunately, the pre event and Helene dumped so much rain that the deeper soil is very moist still. In 2016 the deeper soil went dry. Root systems were burning here, well underground. Yeah it was dry deep then but, the foliage and exposed woodlands are dry enough to support wildfires. The Water levels are not the concern they were then due to what you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Flash* Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 The amount of rain received late September has kept October looking decent in middle TN, better than 2016 and 2007, that's for sure. Granted, I'm concerned at the rate we're going heading into November. Ironically, our areas would be in rougher shape without those tropical remnants last month. If we can score a precip pattern that stalls west of the mountains, that would be ideal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1122 Posted October 24 Author Share Posted October 24 The 00z GFS was pretty wet late run, the 06 was bone dry. We are probably going to set an October record for driest month after many September records for wettest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 12z GFS has snow at 384 for some eastern areas. Lock it in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boone Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 hours ago, John1122 said: The 00z GFS was pretty wet late run, the 06 was bone dry. We are probably going to set an October record for driest month after many September records for wettest. Noticed Models are hinting at another possible Hurricane hitting Florida somewhere. Some guidance has a similar path as Helene bringing us bountiful Rainfall. Other's going under Ridge and moving East across tip Fla . Apparently contingent on timing and where the HP is. Could have a lot to do with dry or wet next couple weeks. As it stands, westward traversing Convection and developing TC in the Caribbean and along ITCZ in Vicinity seems to be a mechanism helping keep us in locked in HP and Dry. Of course MJO Status is also influencing things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boone Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 1 hour ago, Carvers Gap said: 12z GFS has snow at 384 for some eastern areas. Lock it in. If some things connect at the right time, a possibility actually. Timing per usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 15 hours ago, Daniel Boone said: If some things connect at the right time, a possibility actually. Timing per usual. The 0z had it again. The scenario is basically the "Sandy scenario" where a tropical system gets caught-up in a strong cold front. For those new to our forum this year, DB and I are just kicking this around. Really, we need rain. However, sometimes La Nina fall seasons can rapidly flip quite cold after endless summers. The 0z GEFS ensembles is supporting the ridge moving back West for an undetermined amount of time. I would guess it sticks out there from roughly Nov 7 to right before Christmas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Flash* Posted Saturday at 11:21 AM Share Posted Saturday at 11:21 AM Wishing everyone on here a happy weekend and measurable rain! Per mid/east TN QPF forecast grids... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Flash* Posted Saturday at 12:08 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:08 PM No joke, it started to pour after my last post. A quick 0.05-0.1" to break the dry spell. What are the evens? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1122 Posted Saturday at 06:24 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 06:24 PM Actually getting more rain that I thought we would after it went around overnight. Steady shower going that hopefully lasts 30 minutes. Crazy that we just go from drought to downpours and record rains the last few years to drought with no in-betweens. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMZ8990 Posted Saturday at 06:53 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:53 PM Some light showers popping up along the Tn/Ms border in Memphis at the moment. We will take what we can get at this point! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed33 Posted Saturday at 08:06 PM Share Posted Saturday at 08:06 PM Wow! Actually getting a bonafide storm with heavy rain and lightning right now! This little cluster of cells just kinda blew up! Edit: Actually picked up 0.64 out of that cell! It almost looks like it morphed into a small MCS. No doubt some places in Greene Co and over near Johnson City will have closer to an inch or more out of this! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boone Posted Sunday at 03:56 AM Share Posted Sunday at 03:56 AM Not much here but more than what it originally looked like. 0.14" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted Sunday at 08:01 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:01 PM Really, no consistent cold pattern is showing up yet. This is definitely starting to look like extended+++ summer. I would think we see a pretty radical flip to cold with this with mid January through February being much AN. If we manage to carry this warm pattern through December, all bets are off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwagner88 Posted Monday at 03:51 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:51 PM GFS is not enthused about any real rain in this half of the state. It's almost totally dry through 384 down here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boone Posted Monday at 07:21 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:21 PM 3 hours ago, dwagner88 said: GFS is not enthused about any real rain in this half of the state. It's almost totally dry through 384 down here. Yeah, terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted Wednesday at 07:49 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:49 PM Warm weather, with some minor cooler interludes, is still on wash, rinse, repeat. Cooler nights have kept our overall average from torching. However, this is one of the warmest falls I can remember. It is definitely one of the driest Octobers as we have only had 0.36" of rain. This is a textbook La Nina fall. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1122 Posted Wednesday at 08:21 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 08:21 PM Really needed some sun this evening for photos I'm doing. Instead I get ultra thick clouds and a rain shower has popped up in the area. This was no where in any forecast. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stovepipe Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 18 hours ago, Carvers Gap said: Warm weather, with some minor cooler interludes, is still on wash, rinse, repeat. Cooler nights have kept our overall average from torching. However, this is one of the warmest falls I can remember. It is definitely one of the driest Octobers as we have only had 0.36" of rain. This is a textbook La Nina fall. My garden is happy as I got cool season seeds in the ground late and they need some help germinating. My wallet however is curled up in a fetal position sucking it's thumb as a result of the water bill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1122 Posted 11 hours ago Author Share Posted 11 hours ago The leaves were fantastic here this year but short lived. They are mostly gone now with today's wind. If it rains much tonight, that'll finish the majority. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boone Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, John1122 said: The leaves were fantastic here this year but short lived. They are mostly gone now with today's wind. If it rains much tonight, that'll finish the majority. Same here. From what I gather, some area's to our East are just at Peak now for whatever reason. Peak was about a Week (5-7 days)behind what the average Normal time is here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew70 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Interesting snippet I found out today. For first time in over 130 years Mt. Fuji does not have any snow at the top at Halloween. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Boone Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 48 minutes ago, Matthew70 said: Interesting snippet I found out today. For first time in over 130 years Mt. Fuji does not have any snow at the top at Halloween. Yeah, apparently the strong -PDO , or at least the big warm SST pool out there is what's doing it. Sadly, it's downstream effect has been affecting us as well with the 500 MB Pattern as we know so well from last Winter. I don't really know what it's going to take to finally shift or dissipate that area of warm SST'S. Pacific State is really hurting us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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