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June Discobs 2024


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45 minutes ago, IronTy said:

Not impressed with this heat wave so far.  It's not even that hot in the city.  

The heat wave was always going to be focused north of us during the middle of the week, and then collapse down onto us for the weekend.  90/65 is hot, but not that bad.  When we go to 97/98 this weekend it'll be more noticeable.  But the sudden-onset dry conditions have certainly helped us out in terms of feels-like weather.  

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12 minutes ago, WeatherShak said:


Well it’s the onshore flow from the east/southeast that’s making it seem nice.

Once that changes, you’re gonna cook in the city.

I'm going back to the Bay house tomorrow.  Just in time for the real heat.  Hopefully the AC in my ancient Subaru holds up for the drive home.  

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Ok so I mentioned heat hype on Sunday and I’m at day 4 of non  hottest in decades ranging 89-92 for highs.  We are stuck with DCA both good and bad and with no high in TN valley to support the blistering heat with westerly component DCA stays  dead southerly to maybe SSW. 99 or 100 or even 97 won’t happen unless the winds swing 

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On 6/17/2024 at 3:09 PM, WEATHER53 said:

Where will it be hottest in decades?

Not here as winds never get a solid westerly component with No high in TN valley and south flow dominant from  Bermuda high 

Saw  99 late week yesterday, now 96 max.  Sensing heat hype. 

 

Let’s see if winds get west of like 190-200  at DCA.  If not 97-100 won’t happen and it will be normal heat like 95 tops at DCA. 

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I am guessing we could see EHW's maybe in the metros for Sunday?  Zones have HX near 110

Zone Forecast Product
National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC
133 PM EDT Thu Jun 20 2024

DCZ001-202100-
District of Columbia-
Including the city of Washington
133 PM EDT Thu Jun 20 2024

.THIS AFTERNOON...Mostly sunny. Highs in the lower 90s. South
winds around 5 mph.
.TONIGHT...Partly cloudy in the evening, then becoming mostly
clear. Lows around 70. South winds around 5 mph.
.FRIDAY...Sunny, hot with highs in the mid 90s. South winds
around 5 mph.
.FRIDAY NIGHT...Mostly clear. Lows in the mid 70s. South winds
around 5 mph.
.SATURDAY...Sunny. A chance of showers and thunderstorms in the
afternoon. Some thunderstorms may produce gusty winds in the
afternoon. Hot with highs in the upper 90s. Southwest winds
around 5 mph. Chance of rain 30 percent.
.SATURDAY NIGHT...Partly cloudy. Lows in the upper 70s.
.SUNDAY...Mostly sunny with a chance of showers. Hot with highs
around 100. Chance of rain 30 percent. Heat index values up to
110.
.SUNDAY NIGHT...Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms.
Lows in the mid 70s. Chance of rain 60 percent.
.MONDAY...Mostly sunny with a chance of showers and
thunderstorms. Highs in the mid 90s. Chance of rain 40 percent.
.MONDAY NIGHT...Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 70s.
.TUESDAY...Sunny. Highs in the lower 90s.
.TUESDAY NIGHT...Mostly clear. Lows in the lower 70s.
.WEDNESDAY...Mostly sunny. Hot with highs in the upper 90s.

 

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Saturday night will be warmer still, with overnight lows in the
mid-upper 70s to the east of the Blue Ridge, with lower 80s
even possible in DC and Baltimore. This level of heat overnight,
when the daytime temperatures are near 100, is especially
dangerous because there will be very little relief. Current
forecast would only have heat indices below 90 between midnight
and 8 AM Sunday.

&&

.LONG TERM /SUNDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/...
The conclusion of this weekend will mark a temporary end to the
lengthy period of above average temperatures. On Sunday, 850-mb
temperatures rise to around 21-23C which dry adiabatically mixed to
the surface would support some century degree readings.
Consequently, the forecast does call for some spots reaching 100
degrees. This is accompanied increasing humidity levels as dew
points rise into the upper 60s to low 70s. The resultant heat
indices range from 100 to 107 degrees across the forecast area. If
this were to be maintained, Heat Advisories may be needed for much
of the region. An additional threat will be some strong to severe
thunderstorms, particularly during the afternoon to evening hours.
After over a week of continued heating of the surface, instability
levels should be maximized as mixed-layer CAPE values reach 2,500 to
3,000 J/kg. The guidance vary in convective coverage which suggests
there could be some capping issues.

After around 9 to 10 days without a cold frontal passage, the
guidance does bring a boundary through during the second half of
Monday. This would bring an additional threat for some severe
convection, especially for those east of the Blue Ridge Mountains.
The added clouds and thunderstorm activity does carry Monday`s high
temperatures back down into the upper 80s to mid 90s. Through
Tuesday, this boundary eventually settles off to the south across
the coastal Carolinas. Another round of hot temperatures ensue
toward mid-week as highs rise into the mid/upper 90s again. Heat
indices begin to approach advisory levels again. Another cold front
races across the local area by Thursday which helps usher
temperatures down. This would again come with another risk of severe
thunderstorms.
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14 minutes ago, pazzo83 said:

We need to invest in some more heat-resilient infra lol.  WMATA has also slowed down trains above ground to a max of 35mph due to rail temps of more than 130F.

Power yes, but the rail issue isn't unique to metro. That's just a product of steel's inherent properties. We would need some wonder material replacement to fix that issue. Rails are installed under tension but with enough heat that can switch to compression as the steel expands resulting in bending/buckling. Engineers take that stuff into account and it all might still be "within spec" but it still deserves respect in terms of train speed as you get to the edge of that allowable range.

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4:50pm EDT on June 20, 2024. With the sun shining directly above a point in the Pacific Ocean between Hawaii and Mexico, this point has reached the farthest distance north of the equator that it will get this year. It's on its way back south in latitude now. Meaning shortening days in the northern hemisphere from here on out until the winter solstice.

Why did I type all of this unsolicited information that everyone was already aware of out?... 

Friends gif. Matt Leblanc as Joey shugs and gives a large frown as if he doesn't really care.

 

Anyways...

...

Currently it's 89/64 at IAD.

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URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC
459 PM EDT Thu Jun 20 2024

DCZ001-MDZ004>006-008-011-013-014-016-503>508-VAZ037>040-050-051-
053>057-501-502-505-506-526-527-210500-
/O.NEW.KLWX.EH.A.0003.240622T1600Z-240623T0000Z/
District of Columbia-Frederick MD-Carroll-Northern Baltimore-
Cecil-Southern Baltimore-Prince Georges-Anne Arundel-Charles-
Northwest Montgomery-Central and Southeast Montgomery-Northwest
Howard-Central and Southeast Howard-Northwest Harford-Southeast
Harford-Albemarle-Greene-Madison-Rappahannock-Orange-Culpeper-
Fairfax-Arlington/Falls Church/Alexandria-Stafford-Spotsylvania-
King George-Northern Fauquier-Southern Fauquier-Western Loudoun-
Eastern Loudoun-Northwest Prince William-Central and Southeast
Prince William/Manassas/Manassas Park-
Including the cities of Charlottesville, Falls Church, Baltimore,
Glen Burnie, Odenton, Sterling, Dale City, Jarrettsville,
Ellicott City, Turnbull, Clinton, College Park, Gaithersburg,
Severn, Damascus, Lisbon, Fredericksburg, Eldersburg, Dahlgren,
Ballenger Creek, Herndon, Madison, Bowie, Camp Springs,
Annapolis, St. Charles, Falmouth, Ashburn, Stanardsville,
Washington, Alexandria, Frederick, Haymarket, Chantilly, Severna
Park, Suitland-Silver Hill, Columbia, Gordonsville, Rockville,
Arnold, Laurel, Bethesda, Arlington, Purcellville, Reisterstown,
Cockeysville, Silver Spring, Leesburg, Lake Ridge, Warrenton,
Culpeper, Greenbelt, Westminster, Franconia, Aberdeen, Orange,
Waldorf, Germantown, Montclair, South Gate, Elkton, Manassas,
Reston, McLean, Woodbridge, Annandale, and Centreville
459 PM EDT Thu Jun 20 2024

...EXCESSIVE HEAT WATCH IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH
SATURDAY EVENING...

* WHAT...Dangerously hot conditions with heat index values up to 110
  possible.

* WHERE...Portions of DC, central, north central, northeast,
  northern, and southern Maryland, and central, northern, and
  northwest Virginia.

* WHEN...From Saturday afternoon through Saturday evening.

* IMPACTS...Heat related illnesses increase significantly during
  extreme heat and high humidity events.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Oppressive heat and humidity will overspread
  the area Saturday and last into Sunday. Little relief from the
  heat is expected Saturday night with low temperatures in upper 70s
  to near 80 for most.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Drink plenty of fluids, stay in an air-conditioned room, stay out of
the sun, and check up on relatives, neighbors, pets, and livestock.

Do not leave young children and pets in unattended vehicles. Car
interiors will reach lethal temperatures in a matter of minutes.

&&

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1 hour ago, TSG said:

Power yes, but the rail issue isn't unique to metro. That's just a product of steel's inherent properties. We would need some wonder material replacement to fix that issue. Rails are installed under tension but with enough heat that can switch to compression as the steel expands resulting in bending/buckling. Engineers take that stuff into account and it all might still be "within spec" but it still deserves respect in terms of train speed as you get to the edge of that allowable range.

It's taken decades to invest in flood resilient infrastructure. Our society is so terribly backwards we won't have a semblance of heat resiliency until our generation is in a nursing home. 

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4 hours ago, George BM said:

4:50pm EDT on June 20, 2024. With the sun shining directly above a point in the Pacific Ocean between Hawaii and Mexico, this point has reached the farthest distance north of the equator that it will get this year. It's on its way back south in latitude now. Meaning shortening days in the northern hemisphere from here on out until the winter solstice.

Why did I type all of this unsolicited information that everyone was already aware of out?... 

Friends gif. Matt Leblanc as Joey shugs and gives a large frown as if he doesn't really care.

 

Anyways...

...

Currently it's 89/64 at IAD.

I can almost hear the bells of the Sistine Chapel, it's only a matter of time.  I can already see the back end of this heat wave, summer's basically over.  

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Just now, MN Transplant said:

GFS, Euro, HRDPS, and HRRR all support 100 around DC on Saturday, with the NAM being a significantly outlier.  The ICON joins the other globals for Sunday.

Yea it looks more likely now.

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1 hour ago, MN Transplant said:

Interesting test of the AI models.  ECMWF-AIFS and the GFS GraphCast both seem to top out in the 96 range per the maps on Pivotal.  

We can't get AI to answer a question right on a car dealership website. I won't trust numerical model guidance that's AI-based for a long time.

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31 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said:

We can't get AI to answer a question right on a car dealership website. I won't trust numerical model guidance that's AI-based for a long time.

Yeah, I remain skeptical.  Even if it is doing well with verification at 500mb, the actual weather matters more.

NAM's 850s top out at 20-21C.  GFS is around 22C.  Euro is 22-23C.

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