qg_omega Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 17 minutes ago, forkyfork said: day 2 of 90 for nj Historic 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 57 minutes ago, psv88 said: NWS website showed a high of 92 in the hourly history chart. Not sure where you are looking. The NWS hourly history chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Just now, Dark Star said: The NWS hourly history chart. Did you look at the max temp column? High daily temperatures mean the max temp, not the hourly average temp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted June 18 Author Share Posted June 18 Up to 88. Doesn't feel that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 4 hours ago, winterwarlock said: hit 90 yesterday (my first of the season) to start my heatwave unofficially that will likely be 7-9 days Maybe even a little longer than that. Doesn't look like much of a cooldown at all for early to mid next week. It appears we won't see any kind of halfway decent cooldown until the end of next week, so we could be looking at a 10 or 11 day heat wave here in NJ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Highest temperatures this hour up in New Hampshire with the heat index pushing 100° in Mass. JAFFREY NH SUNNY 91 66 43 S7 NORWOOD SUNNY 89 74 60 SW7 30.21R HX 98 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwarlock Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Up to 90...day 2 of heatwave commences 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJW014 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 73 here at the beach. 92 at home only 3 miles inland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 We bake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 88 now here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 3 hours ago, SACRUS said: TX / Upper MW, GL the wet spots Some spots could approach the 3”PWAT local record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 84/73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 90F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 hour ago, psv88 said: Did you look at the max temp column? High daily temperatures mean the max temp, not the hourly average temp. I did notice that, after I tripled checked the page. Thanks. I don't think I ever notice that column before. Maybe because I was never looking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 1 hour ago, bluewave said: This is what it used to look like before the trees began to grow over the sensor and put it in on the shade since the 90s. There is no way NYC would have made it to 106° back in 1936 if they had the same tree coverage that do now. Probably not. But also if we didn't cut down every tree and pave over everything, no way we have so many 90 degree days either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 88 yesterday, 90 today so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 91 / 65 here now 192° (SSW) wind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Only 73 in Long Beach. Wonder if it even makes it to 80 this week on the barrier islands? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 83 here-but humid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poker2015 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 15 minutes ago, FPizz said: 88 yesterday, 90 today so far. You didn't hit 90 yesterday? All the stations on my end of town were 90-92. Mine isn't updating online for some reason, but working... Definitely hotter so far today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 84 so far at both my stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Stuck at 88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binbisso Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Lga is 85* dp 66. Top ten summer day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Current temp 93/DP 74/RH 56% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 52 minutes ago, FPizz said: Probably not. But also if we didn't cut down every tree and pave over everything, no way we have so many 90 degree days either. It’s not about cutting down trees or paving over everything. NYC is the only major station in a park or rural setting that placed the ASOS under trees in 1995. The New Brunswick station is a great example of how to place a weather station in a more suburban or rural setting. Notice how the trees are away from the thermometer and the equipment isn’t in the shade. NYC fundamentally changed how they measure temperature back in the 90s so it created a discontinuity in the long term climate record. I guarantee you if they placed the equipment on the great lawn instead the highs wouldn’t be that much different from Newark. Going by what NYC and Newark recorded with 90°days before the 90s, NYC would probably have 29 days reaching 90° each year vs 33 at Newark instead of the 17 of recent years. So the tree growth over the last 30 years has resulted in a reduction of around 12 days reaching 90° a year. You will also notice that the New Brunswick station even though there are trees and grass around has seen a steady increase in 90° days over the years. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 2 hours ago, bluewave said: This is what it used to look like before the trees began to grow over the sensor and put it in on the shade since the 90s. There is no way NYC would have made it to 106° back in 1936 if they had the same tree coverage that do now. Very sketchy reading. Why was it 4F warmer in the park than at the Weather Bureau office in the city that day? Weird, the opposite of what you would expect from the UHI effect. It's also weird that they give precedence to the park's readings over the Weather Bureau readings. Very atypical, as most threaded records utilize the WB office readings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 3 minutes ago, bluewave said: It’s not about cutting down trees or paving over everything. NYC is the only major station in a park or rural setting that placed the ASOS under trees in 1995. The New Brunswick station is a great example of how to place a weather station in a more suburban or rural setting. Notice how the trees are away from the thermometer and the equipment isn’t in the shade. NYC fundamentally changed how they measure temperature back in the 90s so it created a discontinuity in the long term climate record. I guarantee you if they placed the equipment on the great lawn instead the highs wouldn’t be that much different from Newark. Going by what NYC and Newark recorded with 90°days before the 90s, NYC would probably have 29 days reaching 90° each year vs 33 at Newark instead of the 17 of recent years. So the tree growth over the last 30 years has resulted in a reduction of around 12 days reaching 90° a year. You will also notice that the New Brunswick station even though there are trees and grass around have seen a steady increase in 90° days over the years. So this proves that the NWS Central Park temperature measurements are not representing what was intended? Obvioulsy you can't "move" the location, but they better modify it soon. Why are they so stubborn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 Anyways, I wouldn't get too worked up over one reading from 1936. The same people who blab on about "it's only summer" and cry about the shading color of the weather map would be saying the same thing about that summer. And, to be quite honest, I think they would have a point. They say it's the hottest summer on record, but this looks like a summer of yesteryear to me (outside of a 1-week hot stretch). June 1936 Central Park Weather Bureau Office July 1936 Central Park Note: Excluding the 7 days from July 8 to July 14, the means are 83.1F/64.5F and 73.8F average for the other 24 days. Weather Bureau Office August 1936 Central Park Weather Bureau Office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 20 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: Very sketchy reading. Why was it 4F warmer in the park than at the Weather Bureau office in the city that day? Weird, the opposite of what you would expect from the UHI effect. It's also weird that they give precedence to the park's readings over the Weather Bureau readings. Very atypical, as most threaded records utilize the WB office readings. The 1936 record high in Central Park looks good to me. The WB office down near the Battery is subject to cooling breezes off NY Harbor. Open areas of the park where they used to measure temperature were traditionally one of the warmest spots around the area before the ASOS was located under the trees in 1995. Notice how many 104° to 106°readings there were back in July 1936. If we ever had a repeat of the dust bowl in this much warmer climate places other than the current NYC ASOS would easily go 110°+. Data for July 1, 1936 through July 31, 1936Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. NJ PLAINFIELD COOP 106 NY NY CITY CENTRAL PARK WBAN 106 NY PORT JERVIS COOP 105 NJ ELIZABETH COOP 105 NJ JERSEY CITY COOP 105 NJ LITTLE FALLS COOP 105 NJ PATERSON COOP 105 NJ CHARLOTTEBURG RESERVOIR COOP 105 NY SCARSDALE COOP 105 NY BEDFORD HILLS COOP 105 NJ NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP WBAN 104 NY FLUSHING COOP 104 NY WEST POINT COOP 104 NY MOUNT VERNON COOP 103 NY HICKSVILLE COOP 103 NY CARMEL COOP 103 CT WATERBURY ANACONDA COOP 103 CT WATERBURY CITY HALL COOP 103 NJ CANOE BROOK COOP 102 NY WORLD TRADE CENTER WBAN 102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboLeader1 Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 As of 3PM, current temp 90F/DP 70/RH 57% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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