OrdIowPitMsp Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 2.11” yesterday. Lawn is looking lush. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 2 hours ago, nrgjeff said: for Sunday: Although the 30% is Mid-South, the surface low and associated boundaries could very well be Illinois to Indiana. I'd love the WF to be north of I-70. At least I-64. Outflow will likely be in the Mid-South but that's hideous chase terrain. If the atmosphere can recover from morning rain and storms, instability should get north into IL/IN which is already 15%. SPC could be waiting for confidence on Atmo recovery and then destabilization farther north. Their 'concerning pattern' language is notable. One thing to consider as well is that the Indy 500 is Sunday (I'll be attending as usual). Optimistic that morning rain will clear out in time for the 12:45 green flag and stay clear while instability grows for later in the afternoon. But, anyone chasing in Indiana will likely see packed interstates with 300,000 in attendance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 2.12" here in town. No thunder here tho. Rivers are high, as well as the lawn. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1.2" of much needed rain, everything is lush and green. Looks like some snow could skirt the northern portion of L Superior tonight. Looking off my backyard deck, 17 days ago vs today. 60 to 75% leaf out. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, weatherbo said: 1.2" of much needed rain, everything is lush and green. Looks like some snow could skirt the northern portion of L Superior tonight. Looking off my backyard deck, 17 days ago vs today. 60 to 75% leaf out. What tree species are we looking at here? Are these oaks? Are there any white ash? And if so, any leaves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 6 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: What tree species are we looking at here? Are these oaks? Are there any white ash? And if so, any leaves? These are maple but there's plenty of ash and they're leafing out as well but well behind, maybe 20% leaf out. Two weeks earlier than last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 17 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: What tree species are we looking at here? Are these oaks? Are there any white ash? And if so, any leaves? This is my ash, it's just off my deck as well. Well behind most trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostfern Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 6 hours ago, Lightning said: While I love t-storms, I really don't really mind missing the very destructive & tornadic ones. Not surprised by the results at all. This system was too far west for southern MI. Don’t really want severe IMBY either, but a 50 dbz cell overhead with some CGs would sure be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 19 minutes ago, frostfern said: Don’t really want severe IMBY either, but a 50 dbz cell overhead with some CGs would sure be nice. Exactly CGs (hence my profile pic). I see yours has updated appropriately too I also love the heavy rainfalls as I don't have flooding concerns really (it would need to be a Noah level event). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostfern Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 2 minutes ago, Lightning said: Exactly CGs (hence my profile pic). I see yours has updated appropriately too I also love the heavy rainfalls as I don't have flooding concerns really (it would need to be a Noah level event). Ponding issues are bigger here if it rains hard in March or April. I have had my lawn puddle seep into the basement before, but its always March or April. By May it seems like the grass just sucks it up and grows a foot. It might just be that the thin layer of muddy clay over the mostly sandy soil gets more porous as soon as it gets warmer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, weatherbo said: These are maple but there's plenty of ash and they're leafing out as well but well behind, maybe 20% leaf out. Wow, I'm pretty shocked. I would have never thought your location in the Huron Mountains of the Upper Peninsula would have that many leaves already. When I look at the phenological reports from the Weather Bureau's Monthly Weather Review, you seem further along than northern Ohio used to be in the early 20th century, with the first White Ash leaves not being noted until the last week or so of May into early June. Even elm were just coming into leaf. Crazy how much that's changed in the past 100 years. 1907 1908 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 2 hours ago, weatherbo said: These are maple but there's plenty of ash and they're leafing out as well but well behind, maybe 20% leaf out. 9 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: Wow, I'm pretty shocked. I would have never thought your location in the Huron Mountains of the Upper Peninsula would have that many leaves already. When I look at the phenological reports from the Weather Bureau's Monthly Weather Review, you seem further along than northern Ohio used to be in the early 20th century, with the first White Ash leaves not being noted until the last week or so of May into early June. Even elm were just coming into leaf. Crazy how much that's changed in the past 100 years. 1907 1908 I mean 1904, even far southern Ohio didn't have ash leaves until the second to third week of May. Blows my mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 High winds last evening and last night were solid across the area. ORD had a peak wind gust of 58MPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidIcewx Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 16 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: Wow, I'm pretty shocked. I would have never thought your location in the Huron Mountains of the Upper Peninsula would have that many leaves already. When I look at the phenological reports from the Weather Bureau's Monthly Weather Review, you seem further along than northern Ohio used to be in the early 20th century, with the first White Ash leaves not being noted until the last week or so of May into early June. Even elm were just coming into leaf. Crazy how much that's changed in the past 100 years. 1907 1908 As someone who works for a utility dealing with trees I find this bit of data fascinating! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torchageddon Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Amazing morning and day, it was already 21C at 7am with a humidex. Great cloud watching and very breezy to windy. Its so dynamic that it was near overcast at 10:30am with drops of rain but quickly moved on before noon. High of 29C. All the storms blowing up just to my east as usual which if fine by me - don't want this perfect day spoiled. This stretch has been wonderful, making up for the crummy first half of May. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 4 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said: I mean 1904, even far southern Ohio didn't have ash leaves until the second to third week of May. Blows my mind. Don’t get your panties in a bunch. In general, things seem about 2 weeks ahead of last year. I have seen it this early, and just as late as well. 2015 didn’t have a full canopy until June 10th ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostfern Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 3 hours ago, weatherbo said: Don’t get your panties in a bunch. In general, things seem about 2 weeks ahead of last year. I have seen it this early, and just as late as well. 2015 didn’t have a full canopy until June 10th ish. Spring 2015 was awful. I remember there were flakes falling here around the middle of May when foliage was like 75% open. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostfern Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 5 hours ago, Chicago Storm said: High winds last evening and last night were solid across the area. ORD had a peak wind gust of 58MPH. I don’t know what the speed was here but it was strong for this time of year (outside of a thunderstorm). The cold front that came through during the morning sounded like a November gale, but with late spring warmth. Weird system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 15 hours ago, Chicago Storm said: High winds last evening and last night were solid across the area. ORD had a peak wind gust of 58MPH. thanks for the confirmation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 17 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said: I mean 1904, even far southern Ohio didn't have ash leaves until the second to third week of May. Blows my mind. That seems very late for Southern Ohio (even in 1904). We are about 2 weeks ahead of schedule here in Northeast Ohio. The Black Locust are the latest to leaf out this year. There are very few, if any, Ash trees remaining. Total devastation from the ash borer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 8 minutes ago, NEOH said: That seems very late for Southern Ohio (even in 1904). We are about 2 weeks ahead of schedule here in Northeast Ohio. The Black Locust are the latest to leaf out this year. There are very few, if any, Ash trees remaining. Total devastation from the ash borer. The late leaf out reported that year is consistent with the temperature data, though. 1904 was one of the coldest years to date on record. Dayton - only 1978 cooler Cleveland - only 1875 & 1885 cooler, tied with 1912 1907 is an interesting case (shown above for a few northern locations). Some tree species leafed out early, especially in the south. But the late blooming ash did not leaf out until mid to late May in most places. I looked at the temperature data, and there was a significant warm spell in late March (not as intense as 2012, but still quite warm), but then April and May were way below modern averages. Marquette in @weatherbo's territory has been nearly as warm in 2024, as Cleveland in 1904. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 The "severe" drought area in Iowa has all been downgraded to "moderate" as of yesterday. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Windy start to the day with chilly NE winds up to 35 mph, and temps in the low 40's this morning. Rain just to the S & W of me as system moves this way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 0.86" here this morning. My May total is 5.31". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny8 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 On 5/22/2024 at 2:31 PM, TheClimateChanger said: Wow, I'm pretty shocked. I would have never thought your location in the Huron Mountains of the Upper Peninsula would have that many leaves already. When I look at the phenological reports from the Weather Bureau's Monthly Weather Review, you seem further along than northern Ohio used to be in the early 20th century, with the first White Ash leaves not being noted until the last week or so of May into early June. Even elm were just coming into leaf. Crazy how much that's changed in the past 100 years. 1907 1908 That is really interesting, good find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 45 degrees this afternoon down in Big Bay picking up mail. Hoping for another soaking rain tonight. Cool weekend in the 60's on tap with some more rain chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 0.85" here today from the 2 rounds of storms. Up to 3.59" for May. More soakers on the way for Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 9 minutes ago, cyclone77 said: 0.85" here today from the 2 rounds of storms. Up to 3.59" for May. More soakers on the way for Sunday. What's your March-May total? Seems like you've been ground zero for rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Small showers repeatedly popped around here today, keeping us wet. My grand total for today is 1.07". My May total is up to 5.52". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 hour ago, weatherbo said: What's your March-May total? Seems like you've been ground zero for rain. 3.39/6.38/3.59 for 13.36" total. Couldn't have asked for a better spring rainfall wise, yet not overly wet to where the farmers were locked out from planting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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