GaWx Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 - The 3/29 0Z GEFS run’s mean NAO prediction (see image below) of ~-1.75 for 3/31 is ~tied for the daily record low NAO for all of March (records go back to 1950)! The current March record is -1.75 (3/22/1980). It will also easily beat the current record low for March 31 of -1.3 (1975). - This run is predicting the lowest NAO to be ~-1.95 to -2.00 (on 4/1). Should that verify closely, it would be a record low NAO (back to 1950) for the entire period covering Feb 15th through April 7th! It will also obliterate the current record low for April 1 of -1.2 (1975). - This run implies there will be daily record low NAOs March 31-April 2nd and possible daily record lows April 3rd-5th. - Related to this, the model consensus has a very strong nor’easter for ~April 4th. Daily NAO back to 1950: https://ftp.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/cwlinks/norm.daily.nao.cdas.z500.19500101_current.csv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KChuck Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 What impact will this have on the upcoming April 8th eclipse weather across the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 6 minutes ago, KChuck said: What impact will this have on the upcoming April 8th eclipse weather across the country? Not much directly as it will fortunately be over before then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 This very strong -NAO has included record daily strong -NAOs Mar 31 through today with another record for the date expected tomorrow. Tomorrow’s is being forecasted by GEFS to be the strongest -NAO daily of this stretch. Daily records go back to 1950. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaWx Posted April 4 Author Share Posted April 4 Today’s NAO is -2.00, which is the most negative of any day Feb 15th through April 7th for the years 1950-present. The old record for that period was -1.84. Also, there have been record daily -NAOs the last five days: https://ftp.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/cwlinks/norm.daily.nao.gefs.z500.120days.csv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormchaserchuck1 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 That is interesting. We had a 4-contour Greenland block, but nothing rivaling the strength of even what we have seen the past few Winters. There seems be a major disconnect between CPC's NAO numbers and what is occurring in the NAO area, measured by sea-level pressure between Iceland and the Azore islands. This Winter came up with something like a +0.7 NAO for DJFM, but if you look at sea-level pressure and 500mb, it should have been measured negative. Either way, hopefully this is some sign that we will see more persistent -NAO's in coming cold seasons, as we had seen 41/46 +NAO Winter months, going back to 2013. and 16/16 of the NAO's >1.11 in the monthly's during that time were all positive. 16-0 since 2013. I think the larger reasoning is issues with CPC's measurements, but maybe the overall signal is turning around.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 5 hours ago, Stormchaserchuck1 said: That is interesting. We had a 4-contour Greenland block, but nothing rivaling the strength of even what we have seen the past few Winters. There seems be a major disconnect between CPC's NAO numbers and what is occurring in the NAO area, measured by sea-level pressure between Iceland and the Azore islands. This Winter came up with something like a +0.7 NAO for DJFM, but if you look at sea-level pressure and 500mb, it should have been measured negative. Either way, hopefully this is some sign that we will see more persistent -NAO's in coming cold seasons, as we had seen 41/46 +NAO Winter months, going back to 2013. and 16/16 of the NAO's >1.11 in the monthly's during that time were all positive. 16-0 since 2013. I think the larger reasoning is issues with CPC's measurements, but maybe the overall signal is turning around.. Isn't the Hurrell NAO method a bit better overall than the CPC's method? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormchaserchuck1 Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 16 hours ago, weatherwiz said: Isn't the Hurrell NAO method a bit better overall than the CPC's method? I don't know that they are the ones that developed the NAO originally, but it wasn't the CPC. NAO was defined in the 1950s/60s, I think, as sea-level pressure differences between ~the Azores islands and Iceland regions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormchaserchuck1 Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 According to todays 12z GFS ensembles, this may be one of the more -NAO June's on record. Permanent, big ridge over Greenland and the Davis Strait is what I have in mind for -NAO, not some small closed off blocking area (like we had late March/early April). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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