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Significant Miller B Nor'easter watch, Apr 3rd-4th


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The colder solutions recently have had the primary maxing out over Lake Michigan or far western Michigan instead of the thumb of Michigan or Lake Huron. That is enough to make a difference and allow the coastal to consolidate a bit better without primary interference. 
 

Note that the 12z NAM was a “thumb of Michigan/Lake Huron” solution unlike the RGEM/GFS

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  On 4/1/2024 at 4:09 PM, ORH_wxman said:

The colder solutions recently have had the primary maxing out over Lake Michigan or far western Michigan instead of the thumb of Michigan or Lake Huron. That is enough to make a difference and allow the coastal to consolidate a bit better without primary interference. 
 

Note that the 12z NAM was a “thumb of Michigan/Lake Huron” solution unlike the RGEM/GFS

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I noticed that earlier when Kevin made that comment. I still don't have a good feel for SNE...maybe nrn ORH could get lucky I guess...perhaps to Ray. It's too bad we lost the synoptic look for a biggie like some of the runs had 2 days ago with the mid levels under us.

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  On 4/1/2024 at 4:16 PM, CoastalWx said:

I noticed that earlier when Kevin made that comment. I still don't have a good feel for SNE...maybe nrn ORH could get lucky I guess...perhaps to Ray. It's too bad we lost the synoptic look for a biggie like some of the runs had 2 days ago with the mid levels under us.

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It would have been nice, but how much can we actually expect this time of the year? Especially. On top of that, this whole year sucked moose dong anyway. I wasn't expecting anything out of this.

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  On 4/1/2024 at 4:20 PM, Snowcrazed71 said:

It would have been nice, but how much can we actually expect this time of the year? Especially. On top of that, this whole year sucked moose dong anyway. I wasn't expecting anything out of this.

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If the setup happened like some models had a few days ago it certainly would have done it. 

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  On 4/1/2024 at 3:57 PM, CoastalWx said:

It's a shame that ULL is such a beast in the MW.

 

The other thing is convection. There is some severe wx progged. Not sure how the globals will handle that..but it's part of the reason why the NAM warm tongue may not be so far fetched...even if off a little.

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There is a big of divergence between the models with this convection in the Ohio Valley. 

The NAM/GFS shifted north with where the bulk of the convection occurs while the HRRR is further south. 

This is why I think its important to closely assess where the warm front ends up today because that's where the convection will be focused. South of the warm front there may be capping issues. The NAM warm tongue would make sense if the convective solution pans out as advertised. 

There isn't a whole lot going on right now which could help with a farther north warm front into the Ohio Valley. 

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  On 4/1/2024 at 4:20 PM, Snowcrazed71 said:

It would have been nice, but how much can we actually expect this time of the year? Especially. On top of that, this whole year sucked moose dong anyway. I wasn't expecting anything out of this.

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Yea as Scott said…if this was showing the solutions from Friday…we’d all be giddy because that would have gotten it done easily, and we’d all be buried. It can happen at this time of the year…but you need the right set up, and everything to go perfectly.  We can’t even catch one break this year for the most part(correction: actually CT did 2/13).  But it’s been a crap two years for the most part. 

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  On 4/1/2024 at 4:36 PM, Ginx snewx said:

I have watched enough waffles here to open an IHOP. People checked out should just not post. Once you say you out then  you out.  The peanut gallery is large

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Been out. Still out. Nothing to say other than best of luck to the northerners. I mean that sincerely. This is a heck of a run for them.

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