rygar Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 3 hours ago, LibertyBell said: No, it's not about there being eclipses in those years, it's about the similarity in the path between 1994 and 2024. Both are going from Texas to Upstate NY, the percentage of the sun covered is even the same in NYC (89%) There are most definitely eclipse cycles-- they are called Saros Cycles. 1994 was also annular, so this year is very unique and rare for the area, can't wait! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 3 hours ago, LibertyBell said: If New York is truly going to be as clear as what I just saw in the forecasts (unlikely, it's still 10 days out), then this will be where a lot of people will be coming. The forecast I just saw for Syracuse (the closest big town to New York City for totality) is 0% high clouds, 0% midlevel clouds and 1% low clouds at 2 PM, about an hour and a half before totality. https://spotwx.com/products/grib_index.php?model=gfs_pgrb2_0p25_f&lat=43.04795&lon=-76.14745&tz=America/New_York&label=Syracuse, New York Who cares if it's a big town or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlizzLuv Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I have family in the Niagara Falls area and we are heading up there for the viewing. Getting towards that time where checking the forecasts daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 11 hours ago, gravitylover said: Who cares if it's a big town or not? Easier to get to for some of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rygar Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Visitation Projections. Eclipse tourism visitation projections — Great American Eclipse I overlaid the NY map with an actual one 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jims Videos Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 Destination: Airborne Park Speedway Plattsburgh. Btw if anyone is on the fence of going, it's absolutely worth it. This is a video I made from our 2017 chase 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 50 minutes ago, rygar said: Visitation Projections. Eclipse tourism visitation projections — Great American Eclipse I overlaid the NY map with an actual one You should superimpose the path of totality on top of this, Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rygar Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 It's there but faint, let me try to improve a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 4 hours ago, LibertyBell said: Easier to get to for some of us. If you're driving you can stop anywhere in the zone that you find a good place to park. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 I have a room booked in SYR area, but just in case clouds sneak in faster, I’ve also booked a room just north of Albany. The plan would be to drive to Plattsburgh that morning. I assume 87 will be a zoo.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 20 minutes ago, Superstorm said: I have a room booked in SYR area, but just in case clouds sneak in faster, I’ve also booked a room just north of Albany. The plan would be to drive to Plattsburgh that morning. I assume 87 will be a zoo. . Plan on leaving Jersey early (5:00, maybe 4:00) Monday morning. Tentative destination Batavia, NY but will adjust along the way depending on any cloud coverage or arriving clouds. Thinking of getting room Monday night to avoid the crowds heading back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rygar Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 33 minutes ago, MANDA said: Plan on leaving Jersey early (5:00, maybe 4:00) Monday morning. Tentative destination Batavia, NY but will adjust along the way depending on any cloud coverage or arriving clouds. Thinking of getting room Monday night to avoid the crowds heading back. I can't leave until 7.30 am for personal reasons, really hampering my options. I am thinking somwhere in the eastern fingerlakes - auburn or skaneateles. Not the best totality duration, but better than no totality for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 20 minutes ago, rygar said: I can't leave until 7.30 am for personal reasons, really hampering my options. I am thinking somwhere in the eastern fingerlakes - auburn or skaneateles. Not the best totality duration, but better than no totality for sure You might be fine. I'm only leaving extra early because have no idea what traffic will be like. Hoping most get in place by Sunday night and traffic is ok on Monday morning. Bigger concern is everyone leaving once it it done. That's why thinking of getting a room Monday night and coming home early Tuesday. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 2 hours ago, gravitylover said: If you're driving you can stop anywhere in the zone that you find a good place to park. That's actually the closest place to my house to go to, I'm debating if I should go further north in totality or stop there. The totality line passes 8 miles south of there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Superstorm said: I have a room booked in SYR area, but just in case clouds sneak in faster, I’ve also booked a room just north of Albany. The plan would be to drive to Plattsburgh that morning. I assume 87 will be a zoo. . I'm thinking there's a chance clouds might creep in plus Syracuse is on the edge of totality, I'm thinking that heading north from there would be a good idea. The further north and east the better I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Yeah the downslope areas of the 'Daks might be the clearest. @Superstorm I expect 87 to be terrible so if all goes according to plan I'll be off it by about sunrise. It might be nice to sit in the park on the lake in Plattsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 People from NY are panicking for some reason in the other eclipse thread..... are the chances of clouds in the totality region getting higher? Specifically talking about Syracuse and the area just north of there. wow Lee Goldberg talking about cloud cover moving in for next Monday too-- but he said it looks like high clouds for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Just now, gravitylover said: Yeah the downslope areas of the 'Daks might be the clearest. @Superstorm I expect 87 to be terrible so if all goes according to plan I'll be off it by about sunrise. It might be nice to sit in the park on the lake in Plattsburgh. People from NY are panicking for some reason in the other eclipse thread..... are the chances of clouds in the totality region getting higher? Specifically talking about Syracuse and the area just north of there. wow Lee Goldberg talking about cloud cover moving in for next Monday too-- but he said it looks like high clouds for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 5 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: People from NY are panicking for some reason in the other eclipse thread..... are the chances of clouds in the totality region getting higher? Specifically talking about Syracuse and the area just north of there. wow Lee Goldberg talking about cloud cover moving in for next Monday too-- but he said it looks like high clouds for now. Who cares until about Friday or Saturday-forecasts this far out are too iffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 26 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: People from NY are panicking for some reason in the other eclipse thread..... are the chances of clouds in the totality region getting higher? Specifically talking about Syracuse and the area just north of there. wow Lee Goldberg talking about cloud cover moving in for next Monday too-- but he said it looks like high clouds for now. The ridge looks like it will be much narrower now than earlier runs were showing so we’ll probably have to wait until the weekend for the specific cloud conditions for the eclipse. New run Old run 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 37 minutes ago, bluewave said: The ridge looks like it will be much narrower now than earlier runs were showing so we’ll probably have to wait until the weekend for the specific cloud conditions for the eclipse. New run Old run are the models becoming worse now for the same reason they were bad all winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 38 minutes ago, bluewave said: The ridge looks like it will be much narrower now than earlier runs were showing so we’ll probably have to wait until the weekend for the specific cloud conditions for the eclipse. New run Old run Looks like that trough is moving east more quickly, this might be better for Texas and Arkansas and worse for us (but still good northeast of here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Oddly enough, 6 days out and the best looking area, as of now, is probably VT/NH/Maine and one of the worst is Texas, which is not what climo would tell us (good friends of mine are departing for Texas shortly for the eclipse and a week of vacation), although we know this can change significantly over the next several days. All three sources below are fairly similar on this (I'm guessing the Times and AccuWeather are both using the NWS NBM for cloud cover, but not sure). We're continuing with our plan of waiting until the day before to make a decision on where to go within fairly easy driving distance, i.e., roughly between about Cleveland (~7.5 hrs/470 miles) and Jackman Maine (~8 hr/500 miles), with Watertown, NY being the closest point of totality (~5 hrs/310 miles), although we'd likely pick a bit north of Burlington VT as our top choice if Burlington and Watertown were looking both clear (north of BTV is ~5.5 hr/340 miles). We'd then drive close to that destination Sunday afternoon/evening, stay in a hotel and then drive the rest of the way Monday morning to some point of totality (right on the center line if possible).https://www.accuweather.com/en/sola...orecast-what-will-the-weather-be-like/1636042https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/science/solar-eclipse-cloud-cover-forecast-map.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 11 minutes ago, RU848789 said: Oddly enough, 6 days out and the best looking area, as of now, is probably VT/NH/Maine and one of the worst is Texas, which is not what climo would tell us (good friends of mine are departing for Texas shortly for the eclipse and a week of vacation), although we know this can change significantly over the next several days. All three sources below are fairly similar on this (I'm guessing the Times and AccuWeather are both using the NWS NBM for cloud cover, but not sure). We're continuing with our plan of waiting until the day before to make a decision on where to go within fairly easy driving distance, i.e., roughly between about Cleveland (~7.5 hrs/470 miles) and Jackman Maine (~8 hr/500 miles), with Watertown, NY being the closest point of totality (~5 hrs/310 miles), although we'd likely pick a bit north of Burlington VT as our top choice if Burlington and Watertown were looking both clear (north of BTV is ~5.5 hr/340 miles). We'd then drive close to that destination Sunday afternoon/evening, stay in a hotel and then drive the rest of the way Monday morning to some point of totality (right on the center line if possible).https://www.accuweather.com/en/sola...orecast-what-will-the-weather-be-like/1636042https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/science/solar-eclipse-cloud-cover-forecast-map.html Beware that the forecast is quickly changing, you're better off in Vermont, looks like both Syracuse and Watertown will be close to the cloud line and the trend isn't good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, LibertyBell said: People from NY are panicking for some reason in the other eclipse thread..... are the chances of clouds in the totality region getting higher? Specifically talking about Syracuse and the area just north of there. wow Lee Goldberg talking about cloud cover moving in for next Monday too-- but he said it looks like high clouds for now. Just read that 33% of people are unaware that looking directly at the Eclipse can cause retinal damage. In 1970, I dared to take a glimpse, after miserably failing at the pinhole through cardboard "scam" technique, and now I was diagnosed with a 20% hearing loss in one ear. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 22 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Beware that the forecast is quickly changing, you're better off in Vermont, looks like both Syracuse and Watertown will be close to the cloud line and the trend isn't good. That's why I said the forecast could change significantly, which is why we're keeping our options wide open... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 4 minutes ago, Dark Star said: Just read that 33% of people are unaware that looking directly at the Eclipse can cause retinal damage. In 1970, I dared to take a glimpse, after miserably failing at the pinhole through cardboard "scam" technique, and now I was diagnosed with a 20% hearing loss in one ear. Huh? Hearing? How would your hearing be affected? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 6 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Huh? Hearing? How would your hearing be affected? ultra violet rays man, they can penetrate the skull.... (jk) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 12 minutes ago, Dark Star said: Just read that 33% of people are unaware that looking directly at the Eclipse can cause retinal damage. In 1970, I dared to take a glimpse, after miserably failing at the pinhole through cardboard "scam" technique, and now I was diagnosed with a 20% hearing loss in one ear. during totality it's perfectly safe, but not during the partial phases. I bought this double filter system to take pictures, one filter blocks 99.999% of all visible light and the other one blocks all UV and all IR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jims Videos Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 Plattsburgh/BVT still looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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