CoralRed Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 2 hours ago, Jns2183 said: Neither side cares about them. They would probably get cared about a lot more quickly if they disabled the railroads in a meaningful way running all through those areas. People would at least have to take notice Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Big sigh. I would like to think so but I can't say I really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbler86 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Down to 48 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahantango#1 Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 31 minutes ago, Bubbler86 said: Down to 48 here. That was my low too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jns2183 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 My grass needs cut again from MondaySent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahantango#1 Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 1 minute ago, Jns2183 said: My grass needs cut again from Monday Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk Yes I got to get mowing too But down at the creek I wont be able to mow an area or two, as the winter springs are open again their flowing and the water is just sitting there. I need a week without it raining and sun to dry out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Holy F*$% the sun is out 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jns2183 Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Holy F*$% the sun is outDon't worry, the scary yellow orb will be gone on Saturday as usual Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Low of 52 here with .09" of additional rainfall. 1.4" over the last 7 days and 2.48" for the month. MDT now only 1.3 AN for the monthly mean temp. Looking forward to what is hopefully a dry day. #WindowsOpen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, mahantango#1 said: So much for me bringing the heat back with me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Sunny and 70. It's a beautiful day! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmsptWx Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 The ten-day would make next week appear to be relatively dry and warm. To quote Mills Lane, "I'll allow it." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Through May 15, the mean temperature at Harrisburg International Airport (MDT) is currently 45.8F, good for 4th warmest YTD in the threaded records behind 2023, 1998 & 2012. Turning to the top 10 for the full year, 2021 is number one, followed by 2023 and 2020. To date, MDT is running 1.7F warmer than 2021, 1.3F warmer than 2020 and 0.8F cooler than 2023. Could make a run for warmest year on record this year (dating to 1889). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 19 hours ago, Jns2183 said: What is the mean, std dev, total changed for each of the periods. More so what is their reason for a change and how they support the decision. The most important part is the support for the changes. You can't say they are wrong without proving their support wrong. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk They speak in general terms of site movements, time of observation adjustments and equipment issues. The detail appears to not be applied at a station level they simply apply it to the county wide averages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 While not the sunniest of days, today and Friday should be dry and not too far from our normal high in the low 70's. We chill back down to below normal over the weekend with shower chances the highest on Saturday but dry again on Sunday. Chester County wide records for today: High 91 degrees at Phoenixville (1945) / Low 30 degrees at Coatesville 1SW (1956) / Rain 2.16" at Glenmoore (2012) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 3 minutes ago, ChescoWx said: They speak in general terms of site movements, time of observation adjustments and equipment issues. The detail appears to not be applied at a station level they simply apply it to the county wide averages. They must be manipulating the raw data out of the MDT ASOS because almost every recent year has been record warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 minute ago, TheClimateChanger said: They must be manipulating the raw data out of the MDT ASOS because almost every recent year has been record warm. I have not looked at MDT but I will do so and let's see how much and if they adjust after the fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahantango#1 Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 47 minutes ago, Voyager said: So much for me bringing the heat back with me... But you might be the game changer we need! Sort of like baseball, going to the bullpen and bringing in the best relief picher to preserve the victory. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 20 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: They must be manipulating the raw data out of the MDT ASOS because almost every recent year has been record warm. You are indeed correct just like in Chester County the NCEI has in fact at least for every single year since 2000 adjusted the temperature for Harrisburg above what has been reported at MDT (see below) Do you know what if any other stations are included in the NCEI Harrisburg data? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 11 minutes ago, ChescoWx said: You are indeed correct just like in Chester County the NCEI has in fact at least for every single year since 2000 adjusted the temperature for Harrisburg above what has been reported at MDT (see below) Do you know what if any other stations are included in the NCEI Harrisburg data? Looks like those are based primarily off CXY, which makes sense since it used to be the official station in Harrisburg. MDT is about a degree or so cooler. It's a trick NOAA does to hide the warming. Repeatedly switch the "official" station to ever cooler locations to mask some of the warming trend. From a downtown windowsill to a downtown rooftop to an urban airport on the outskirts of town and then to a much larger airport in a rural-suburban area either surrounded by water or at a higher elevation, and then thread them all together! Also to hide even more warming switch the data source from a warmer LiG thermometer housed in CRS to an automated weather station (MMTS/ASOS). And then have trolls complain about any adjustments that are made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 2 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: Looks like those are based primarily off CXY, which makes sense since it used to be the official station in Harrisburg. MDT is about a degree or so cooler. It's a trick NOAA does to hide the warming. Repeatedly switch the "official" station to ever cooler locations to mask some of the warming trend. Looks like the trick was indeed to clearly amplify the warming....I will run CXY also great stuff!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 minute ago, ChescoWx said: Looks like the trick was indeed to clearly amplify the warming....I will run CXY also great stuff!! How does moving the station around to a cooler location and "threading" them together amplify warming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mount Joy Snowman Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 This is an amazing exchange to behold 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Just now, TheClimateChanger said: How does moving the station around to a cooler location and "threading" them together amplify warming? they warmed each and every year.....correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 4 minutes ago, ChescoWx said: they warmed each and every year.....correct? Looks like relative to CXY, those values are warmer through 2016 and then recent years are the same or slightly less, which would have the effect of decreasing the trend over that period. Either way, the bigger concern is NOAA indicates Harrisburg saw a 58.1F annual mean temperature last year. That's warmer than the historical annual mean temperature of Richmond, Virginia, and within a couple of degrees of places like Charlotte and Raleigh in North Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 21 minutes ago, Mount Joy Snowman said: This is an amazing exchange to behold 100% Agree what an exchange we have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 It's getting hot in here, So take off all your... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Wow they actually warmed both KMDT and KCXY for the 17 straight years from 2001-2017 in the NOAA Climate set!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 24 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: Looks like relative to CXY, those values are warmer through 2016 and then recent years are the same or slightly less, which would have the effect of decreasing the trend over that period. Either way, the bigger concern is NOAA indicates Harrisburg saw a 58.1F annual mean temperature last year. That's warmer than the historical annual mean temperature of Richmond, Virginia, and within a couple of degrees of places like Charlotte and Raleigh in North Carolina. But of course neither KMDT or KCXY actually recorded a 58.1 degree mean temperature - MDT was 56.8 and CXY 57.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmsptWx Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 https://youtu.be/sTDENzpW7tw?si=ImD43MJY9CcNXsB3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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