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New England 2024 Warm Season Banter


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2 hours ago, DavisStraight said:

Have you ever thought of a pistachio tree? I'm thinking of giving it a try next year.

I’m not a huge fan and I have too many other things growing or that I want to grow. They don’t really have a prayer here in colder years. Like that -18° with strong winds in Feb 23 would wipe even the hardiest one out. One thing I thought about doing is growing an RdB fig in the field with horizontal branches near the ground. Then prune it back in the fall and cover those branches over the winter with dirt or mulch. I could get a strong rootzone going that way and it would explode with growth every spring. Zone pushing can be a lot of extra work.

If there was one thing I’d push and try to protect it’d be cold hardy pomegranates. I’d probably be tempted with lows in the -0s, but our frequent -10s scare me off.

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1 hour ago, dendrite said:

I’m not a huge fan and I have too many other things growing or that I want to grow. They don’t really have a prayer here in colder years. Like that -18° with strong winds in Feb 23 would wipe even the hardiest one out. One thing I thought about doing is growing an RdB fig in the field with horizontal branches near the ground. Then prune it back in the fall and cover those branches over the winter with dirt or mulch. I could get a strong rootzone going that way and it would explode with growth every spring. Zone pushing can be a lot of extra work.

If there was one thing I’d push and try to protect it’d be cold hardy pomegranates. I’d probably be tempted with lows in the -0s, but our frequent -10s scare me off.

I'll be closer to the coast (2 miles away) so not sure how cold it gets there, next year will be my first year there.

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3 minutes ago, DavisStraight said:

I keep mine in the same spot year-round, it's under cover so don't have to worry about it getting buried.

Only time I didn't use it during the winter, was during the 6 week snow blitz in 2015. Otherwise I try to dig a path around it to use it. I keep it covered as well. 

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On 10/20/2024 at 9:17 AM, dendrite said:

They’re really homegrower friendly…maybe moreso than any other fruit. American persimmons may be close. 

They’re native so they’re pretty much disease free. So there’s no spraying for pests or diseases. You don’t need to prune them. You can plant them really close together. Mine are planted 8ft apart as it helps with pollination. The only thing is they don’t compete well with grass and weeds when they’re young and they are heavy, heavy feeders. They want their fertile compost/soil and regular nitrogen.

I experimented with diluted 46-0-0 urea granules in water this year and applied some daily and they responded well. I think it was like 2.5oz granules per 5gal bucket of water. I use the neutral pH condensed water from my dehumidifier so the urea brings the pH down to a number similar to rainwater. But they’re a cool little tree and I recommend people to grow them even if it’s just for their ornamental value. They’re also very deer resistant after the first time they nibble a leaf. Raccoons, possums, and squirrels will potentially go for the fruit though. 

Cool, I always look for something new to plant each season and I have never heard of this fruit. 

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This Sabal palmetto has been growing in Bridgeport since 2009. Supposedly the northernmost large palm growing on the east cost. Normally found south of NC. 

Picture from Aug 2024.

This is the first tree of this species in our database, as well as the first palm tree. This is a USDA zone 8 tree growing in zone 7.
This tree was grown from seed from collected in Sun City Center, FL, in 2005. It was planted outside in its current location in 2009.
This tree suffered die-back over the 2017-2018 winter and its height was reduced from about 8 feet.
It is in a favorable microclimate, very close to a south-facing masonry wall, and is about 500 ft from Long Island Sound.

 

http://oak.conncoll.edu:8080/notabletrees/ViewTreeData.jsp?selected=226219

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1 hour ago, BrianW said:

This Sabal palmetto has been growing in Bridgeport since 2009. Supposedly the northernmost large palm growing on the east cost. Normally found south of NC. 

Picture from Aug 2024.

This is the first tree of this species in our database, as well as the first palm tree. This is a USDA zone 8 tree growing in zone 7.
This tree was grown from seed from collected in Sun City Center, FL, in 2005. It was planted outside in its current location in 2009.
This tree suffered die-back over the 2017-2018 winter and its height was reduced from about 8 feet.
It is in a favorable microclimate, very close to a south-facing masonry wall, and is about 500 ft from Long Island Sound.

 

http://oak.conncoll.edu:8080/notabletrees/ViewTreeData.jsp?selected=226219

687gghj.jpg

Except for the Palm Eek had growing on Winni. He let it die a couple of years ago, because it was getting too big to winterize. 

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13 hours ago, dendrite said:

Except for the Palm Eek had growing on Winni. He let it die a couple of years ago, because it was getting too big to winterize. 

A co-worker living several miles west from CAR had a banana plant growing in his greenhouse for 2 years, summering the thing outside.  It failed to blossom so was left outside going into the 2nd winter.  The lemon tree in the greenhouse was producing lots of fruit.

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