Brian D Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 16 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: Here's Lansing, Michigan snowfall records [earlier years at East Lansing, Michigan], excluding a few years with excessive missing data: Maybe a bit questionable that the very first year with data ranks as lowest. Looking at the monthly data, that looks mostly a function of the fact that precipitation was 25-50 percent of modern norms for the bulk of the cold season. The daily data shown at MRCC from Oct 1863-April 1864 is robust. Nothing missing. 16.6" is the final value for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Snowing really good now. Radar showing increasing dbz along the North Shore. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Canton-Akron (CAK) Official records, since 1948: Manually expanded dataset back to 1893, including snowfall records from other sites in the threaded record that aren't included in the official record for some reason: Mansfield, OH (MFD) - extended back to 1892-1893, excluding several years with no or significant missing data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 We were fully dry-slotted yesterday, but we managed to get a decent 0.46" this morning as a couple final pieces of energy rippled through the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 It's high time the NWS amends the description of climate in Mansfield, Ohio. There is not near continuous snow cover from December through March anymore. And daytime temperatures regularly exceed freezing in the winter. That would be considered absurd today. There's barely been 20 inches the last two winters combined. And 3 of the top 10 least snowy winters are in the last 5 years. I really believe Ohio is ground zero for climate change. Feels like it's warming faster in this region than anywhere on the planet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, TheClimateChanger said: It's high time the NWS amend the description of climate in Mansfield, Ohio. There is not near continuous snow cover from December through March anymore. That would be considered absurd today. There's barely been 20 inches the last two winters combined. And 3 of the top 10 least snowy winters are in the last 5 years. I really believe Ohio is ground zero for climate change. Feels like it's warming faster in this region than anywhere on the planet. Number of days with 1"+ snow cover at MFD [dating to early 1950s]: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 11 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: Number of days with 1"+ snow cover at MFD [dating to early 1950s]: Similar story at CAK: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 17 minutes ago, hawkeye_wx said: We were fully dry-slotted yesterday, but we managed to get a decent 0.46" this morning as a couple final pieces of energy rippled through the area. This morning was pretty sad here with a whole tenth of an inch. Now to wait for the line crossing lower Michigan right now. Hoping it holds together and has at least some CG with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdIowPitMsp Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 3.5” at MSP at the 1pm measurement. Still snowing steadily with some heavier returns that’ll rotate through later this afternoon. Minneapolis has now seen 14.7” of snow since Thursday evening. We were at 14.3” season to date before this period of active weather began. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdIowPitMsp Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Rip city 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClimateChanger Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Let's hope this is wrong. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 hours ago, TheClimateChanger said: I said from Toledo to DTW airport. All of the records prior to the mid 1950s are from the city proper. Of course, it's a bit longer drive out to the airport. The snowfall records were retrieved from xMacis, which has nothing prior to 1890-91. The reason I noted the airport is because I have a friend who lives in Toledo and each of the last 2 winters theyve had more than the airport to their south/west. Much less than DTW, but more than TOL, so Id estimate Toledo the city has probably had 12-15" this season. Monroe, MI is at 17". The last 2 years have been very latitude based in the region. I see Mansfield, OH is at just 8.4". Good Riddance El Nino. And I know its xmacis. Xmacis doesnt always have all the data, it has to be input by someone lol. There is no reason that data that had been counted for 100+ years suddenly is not if there is no M data or anything. Im sure if it was a record that was to your liking youd 100% agree, seeing as though you frequently reference old data Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 hours ago, Brian D said: The daily data shown at MRCC from Oct 1863-April 1864 is robust. Nothing missing. 16.6" is the final value for the season. The 1863-64 was well documented locally to have an extremely severe cold snap around New Years and little winter weather the rest of the season. It was considered a very open winter outside of the first half of January, with very little snow, so that total is 100% believable. Documentation about the winter at Detroit (from "Memorials of a Half Century", a fantastic 1883 book by Bela Hubbard). 1863-64: New Years will be remembered for violent & sudden reversal of temperature. December had been mild with only occasional floating masses of ice on the river. Rain set in December 31st, along with a 24-hour temp fall 40F the evening of Dec 31st to -20F the evening of January 1st. Little snow fell here, but the fall was heavy in Chicago. On Jan 5th, 4” of snow gave good sleighing & it remained cold & sunny the next few weeks. By January 18th thawing left the ground bare, and by January 25th the broad expanse of the river was now free from ice. On January 27th it hit 60F. The first half of February continued mild, thawing during the day & scarcely freezing at night. Frost out of the ground. February 15th was as bright & balmy as April, but a flurry of snow & big change the next day followed by -3F on February 17th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, OrdIowPitMsp said: 3.5” at MSP at the 1pm measurement. Still snowing steadily with some heavier returns that’ll rotate through later this afternoon. Minneapolis has now seen 14.7” of snow since Thursday evening. We were at 14.3” season to date before this period of active weather began. Crazy. Cant talk futility until April in the upper Midwest, and March in the rest of the midwest IMO. Certainly doesnt make up for a shitty winter, but the snow blitz of March 21-26 has plummeted Minneapolis from 2nd least snowy winter to 24th least snowy, and Im sure the ranking will be even lower. At Detroit, 12.7" of the seasons 23.5" fell in a 9-day stretch Jan 11-19, but thanks to that, as Ive mentioned, we are just at 18th least snowy, and easily could fall out of the top 20 with a small April snowfall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Doubtful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 28 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said: Let's hope this is wrong. Indeed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 hours ago, Brian D said: Snowing really good now. Radar showing increasing dbz along the North Shore. Snow is slowly winding down now. Radar showing the E fetch turning from the N. Looks like 4-5" on the deck, but it has drifted some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnchaserguy Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Allegedly we got 10” here in Blaine Sunday night/Monday morning. Combined with the 4” we got last Thursday and the 4-6” we will have by the end of today, we will be close to 20” here in the last five or six days. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 52 minutes ago, Powerball said: Doubtful... Ignoring the Heavy Snow part the rest of it is pretty impressive for that line of 'storms'. 44mph gust with visibility under a mile!! Edit: Not surprised as I have seen snow reported from this site many times when it's not snowing. Alma does it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 maybe I will get like 4 seconds of 50mph wind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 wasn't this supposed to be pretty insane for South Dakota into Minnesota? I absolutely remember a NWS graphic from Aberdeen that said 16"-23" for a border twn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1.08" the total here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 53 minutes ago, Chinook said: wasn't this supposed to be pretty insane for South Dakota into Minnesota? I absolutely remember a NWS graphic from Aberdeen that said 16"-23" for a border twn Just the usual standard model clown maps making a real good storm into an epic one lol. There were a few ensemble runs where every ensemble mean had 30"+ at aberdeen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdIowPitMsp Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Chinook said: wasn't this supposed to be pretty insane for South Dakota into Minnesota? I absolutely remember a NWS graphic from Aberdeen that said 16"-23" for a border twn That map is low for the twin cities. 72hr accumulations are around 10-12” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrdIowPitMsp Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 A few stray flurries fill the air as the last of the snow pulls off to the NE. MSP finished with 3.9” today. Storm total snowfall of 12.1” if you include the 8.2” from Sunday night. Storm total precipitation a much needed 2.34” I can’t recall experiencing a storm quite like this one. An initial heavy thumping of wet snow followed by steady all day rain and then crashing temps with several inches of blowing light powdery snow to round it off. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Nice event!! Should help at least a little bit with the current Drought situation. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Lightning said: Nice event!! Should help at least a little bit with the current Drought situation. I reported in during the event, and ended with 14" here in TH. Co-op observer had 13.5". Higher totals just outside town in the hills. There was a 21.2" report N of town yesterday, If they give an update, should be around 24-25". Very much needed this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 On 3/26/2024 at 2:02 PM, TheClimateChanger said: It's high time the NWS amends the description of climate in Mansfield, Ohio. There is not near continuous snow cover from December through March anymore. And daytime temperatures regularly exceed freezing in the winter. That would be considered absurd today. There's barely been 20 inches the last two winters combined. And 3 of the top 10 least snowy winters are in the last 5 years. I really believe Ohio is ground zero for climate change. Feels like it's warming faster in this region than anywhere on the planet. Its a ridiculous description to begin with. When has Mansfield EVER had continuous snowcover Dec-Mar? It has nothing to do with "anymore". Their decade with the most Dec-Mar snowcover days (1"+) was the 1970s, which averaged 51 days out of a possible 121. Thats less than half. The 2000s & 2010s were steady with snowcover, seeing more than the 1980s-90s, on par with the 1960s, and more than the 1950s (data gets sketchy before 1949). Two winters is not ground zero for a change in climate. You seem to be fascinated with Toledo snow stats lately too. So I decided to look up some stats myself. Toledos snowiest winters (since 1886) #1 is 86.3" is 2013-14, breaking the previous record by 13.2". 7 of the top 20 snowiest have come since 2003. 2 of the top 20 least snowy have come since 2003 (the last 2 winters) Winters with the highest snow depth (since 1893) 03.) 2020-21 (18") 06.) 2014-15 (15") 07.) 2000-01 (14") 09.) 2013-14 (13") 13.) 2008-09 (12") 2009-10 (12") 2010-11 (12") So in 132 years of record, 6 of the top 15 peak snow depth winters have come since 2009. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 5 hours ago, Lightning said: Nice event!! Should help at least a little bit with the current Drought situation. The storyboard switched to a new one. LOL Best save them, and open in Paint, and resave as GIF. I do that with all large pic files to upload them here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian D Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 6 hours ago, Brian D said: I reported in during the event, and ended with 14" here in TH. Co-op observer had 13.5". Higher totals just outside town in the hills. There was a 21.2" report N of town yesterday, If they give an update, should be around 24-25". Very much needed this. Just looking at SWE of this system, Monday's snow was really wet. There was a little rn mixed in between 2-4 am (couple hundreths). TH co-op data: 2024-03-25 0.69 7.5 7 31 26 2024-03-26 0.55 2.0 8 33 27 2024-03-27 0.37 4.0 10 27 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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