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March 2024 disco/obs


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11 hours ago, HIPPYVALLEY said:

That should make for a fresh flow in the rivers. 

Hope it's not too fresh.  Other than the gas pumps at Irving (not their convenience store), none of the five businesses in the Farmington intervale have reopened since the Dec 18 flood.  I was looking forward to trying the new Giffords' ice cream flavors there.

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There's a d(mass field) perturbation event about to unfold through our side of the hemisphere - not sure it is H.A. qualitative.  In fact, it is not in any objective sense of what that statistical science concluded.

"H.A. events,"  as they've been denoted since the publication some 30 years ago ... were focused in +d(PNA) - switching mode from negative --> positive.  

The paper does not discuss switching mode from positive --> negative. 

There was also explicitly stated that there was a weaker ( vague skill ) correlation when moving +d(NAO) - switching it's mode from negative to positive.

In principle, any time there is a large mass field distortion, that "probably" qualifies as a period of interest.  Events of any kind in the natural geophysical environment only happen at all because a state of rest enters a non-state of rest - such is the case when disturbing the quiescent state of the field being observed.   You disrupt, there's an attempt to restore, and the storm happens as consequence. 

From that I am not completely opposed to the idea.  But a +PNA --> -PNA with a rising EPO isn't technically covered in that, which has become both a seminal paper but often misused.

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Just now, Typhoon Tip said:

There's a d(mass field) perturbation event about to unfold through our side of the hemisphere - not sure it is H.A. qualitative.  In fact, it is not in any objective sense of what that statistical science concluded.

"H.A. events,"  as they've been denoted since the publication some 30 years ago ... were focused in +d(PNA) - switching mode from negative --> positive.  

The paper does not discuss switching mode from positive --> negative. 

There was also explicitly stated that there was a weaker ( vague skill ) correlation when moving +d(NAO) - switching it's mode from negative to positive.

In principle, any time there is a large mass field distortion, that "probably" qualifies as a period of interest.  Events of any kind in the natural geophysical environment only happen at all because a state of rest enters a non-state of rest - such was a disturbing the quiescent state of the field being observed.   You disrupt, there's an attempt to restore, and the storm happens as consequence. 

From that I am not completely opposed to the idea.  But a +PNA --> -PNA with a rising EPO isn't technically covered in that, which has become both a seminal paper, but oft misused.

Something huge is coming. Mega rains . Triple phaser not out of the question.  Seen this play before 

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Just now, dendrite said:

I guess…just going by that regional wide map posted. The point is we got the first half of April during the first half of March.

No argument at all. Super warm start. Wish it would roll right on but alas those cute pop up plants gonna freeze their little tushes.

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7 minutes ago, dendrite said:

I guess…just going by that regional wide map posted. The point is we got the first half of April during the first half of March.

And I'm so impatient that if we got this "last two weeks," during the first half of April, it'd be inching me closer to pulling the trigger on a relo to San Diego ... or Frisco or Tuscany. Anywhere of some less rectal glue spring climate ...

But looking at those grid of numbers he posted, I think it's more amazing that the top 20 in history have all happened since 1999 - the last 25 years. 

25 years, vs, any time since Industrial farting white man stole the world

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8 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Have a ton of annuals coming up and hydrangea leafing out. Hope this cold modifies. A few days in the 40s won’t be bad. 

Hostas popped out but Hydrangeas nada.Throw some black plastic over them. 20s will not be good.

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Just now, Ginx snewx said:

Hostas popped out but Hydrangeas nada.Throw some black plastic over them. 20s will not be good.

My hydrangeas are in a sunny area and pop a little early. Last year they got zapped in Feb and had no blossoms.

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9 hours ago, WinterWolf said:

But All we hear is Morch 12 though? 

I know bad analog it actually snowed in Morch 2012 and wasn’t as warm as this March through March 17th. It’s all a dream starting this week though as we go back to reality, still holding out hope for more RAM truck pics and 60s the last few week of the month. 

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3 minutes ago, Sey-Mour Snow said:

I know bad analog it actually snowed in Morch 2012 and wasn’t as warm as this March through March 17th. It’s all a dream starting this week though as we go back to reality, still holding out hope for more RAM truck pics and 60s the last few week of the month. 

6z Euro has snow flying Thursday 

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If that STS that some models show off the Carolinas next week were to happen, this would be the year, right? I mean, with the forecasts being as bullish as they are for the upcoming hurricane season. If we can get a Category 2 in March in 1908, then why can't we get a mere STS in March 2024?

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27 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Have a ton of annuals coming up and hydrangea leafing out. Hope this cold modifies. A few days in the 40s won’t be bad. 

Heh... 40s might be harder to come by in two distinct impulses ...each lasting 2 days.  It'll be close though. 

But, I still think once we get past the 25th we'll see some alleviation.   This is all happening because that top flow structure/-EPO ... dumping downstream over the continent.  not sure how we get out of it - why fight it. Ha.    no but beyond then the spigot looks to shut off. 

People ( straw man here - ) forget that we warm up very fast with very minimum physical exertion required as part of the new CC era that is for some reason chaffing bum rims to admit.  Even ranking GOP power brokers are leaning toward acceptance of what is incontrovertible at this point...

See, denial happens because there are no consequences for denying. 

It's that simple.  No other reason, thus ...equally no reason to recourse.   If someone's denial caused them pain, they would stop denying.   It's really rather remarkable how acutely succinct evolution's mastery was in creating the undeniability of discomfort.  

By the time CC has become uncomfortable enough that even human tech entitlement/protections fail, it will be too late ;)   ( not winking at you per se - you get it)

Digression complete ...

Just saying, shut off the spigot, we go from struggling into the 40s ... beyond 80 in just 2 or 3 days, a kind of short duration whip that didn't as frequently occur spanning previous climate generations.   

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