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March 2024 disco/obs

Torch Tiger

By Torch Tiger,
in New England

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katabatic
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I’m from the MidAtlantic forum and don’t post here but thought I would share with you a picture I just took of the condo I’m staying at Donner Pass in California. Our weather has been shitty so I deci

katabatic
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Greetings again from Donner! The entire front of the four-story condo has now disappeared. We have been taking turns on a side entrance keeping that clear (well, kinda) so that at least we can get out

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So it ends. Let the long journey home commence. Based on additional snowfall yesterday and last night, ended up with 130 inches. Too expensive, somewhat irresponsible, totally impulsive, achingly labo

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  On 3/20/2024 at 12:50 AM, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

We’ll let them rub their bellies with first half of month positive departure maps. I hope we don’t let this current stuff hang around in April though.

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Have we moved on to the time of year where “above normal” is a synonym of “the days better be fukkin’ nice.”

No one wants to hear how warm it’s been if the afternoons aren’t 70F and sunny.  Dreary and mild is like a dirty humid summer pattern where it’s near record above normal but the days are cloudy.

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Ginx snewx

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  On 3/19/2024 at 10:30 PM, Sey-Mour Snow said:

That’s my point. The highs were +8 to +10 for the first 18 days of March for all, it’s not swayed warm at all bc of the lows, the highs and lows are equally torched this month. Thats highly anomalous .  Yes it will change and come back to earth. But we had a really nice 18 day stretch. 

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I will say it has been impressive that despite +10 departures, it's still been cold enough to snow on the mountains.

13" in 24 hours at 3,000ft we measured on Mount Mansfield.  It had some QPF to it too.  A nice SWE gain to the mountain snowpack.

For reference, 3K feet is a third of the way down the ski terrain in this photo from the top.  Ridgeline is 4K feet, Cliff House top station is 3,600ft.  Measuring location is another 600 vertical feet below that.

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Mansfield depth is now above normal, ha.  That's absolutely absurd given the temperature departures IMO.  A solid foot gain with this storm and 36" increase in March so far... from 40" to 76".

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  On 3/20/2024 at 1:38 AM, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

I’m just referring to how people generally view the seasons. No one I know has ever recalled a summer that was below normal because heat is heat generally speaking. Whether it is 85 or 95, people are out doing summer things and will recall the summer based on rain/no rain rather than AN or BN temps. However, winter is completely different. People I know recall winters as “bad” (cold and snowy) or “not bad” (warm and minimal snow). Winter temps stick out much more than summer temps because a 10F difference in the summer is barely noticeable compared to a 10F difference in winter which may coincide with precip type.
 

Both of my closest neighbors we share a private road know the past two winters are warm and snowless which is obvious because we all chip in for plowing. We’ve barely needed the service. But if you ask them how have the past two summers been, they’ll shrug and say hot. 

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Oh having worked as a lifeguard and a water ho I remember a ton of cool wet summers.

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  On 3/20/2024 at 2:28 AM, powderfreak said:

I will say it has been impressive that despite +10 departures, it's still been cold enough to snow on the mountains.

13" in 24 hours at 3,000ft we measured on Mount Mansfield.  It had some QPF to it too.  A nice SWE gain to the mountain snowpack.

For reference, 3K feet is a third of the way down the ski terrain in this photo from the top.  Ridgeline is 4K feet, Cliff House top station is 3,600ft.  Measuring location is another 600 vertical feet below that.

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Mansfield depth is now above normal, ha.  A solid foot gain with this storm and 36" increase in March so far... from 40" to 76".

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Another 2 feet by Monday

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  On 3/20/2024 at 2:33 AM, dryslot said:

A month to late.

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If the north could have kept their base intact…this would be fine.  The County got hit hard last mid and late March last year, and I was up riding on 3/30, 3/31 and 4/1…and it was superb. But being it’s all gone already, and clubs are shut down for the year, ya it’s too late this time. 

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  On 3/20/2024 at 2:44 AM, WinterWolf said:

If the north could have kept their base intact…this would be fine.  The County got hit hard last mid and late March last year, and I was up riding on 3/30, 3/31 and 4/1…and it was superb. But being it’s all gone already, and clubs are shut down for the year, ya it’s too late this time. 

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The biggest thing is that ground isn’t frozen to any real extent and all the water crossings are open. Most people think of bridges and culverts but trails cross a lot of wet ground and places that don’t lend themselves to bridges and culverts. There is a surprising amount of water in NNE even in normal years. 

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  On 3/20/2024 at 2:44 AM, WinterWolf said:

If the north could have kept their base intact…this would be fine.  The County got hit hard last mid and late March last year, and I was up riding on 3/30, 3/31 and 4/1…and it was superb. But being it’s all gone already, and clubs are shut down for the year, ya it’s too late this time. 

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Yeah, There's not much up there, Still quite a bit in NW Maine though.

 

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  On 3/20/2024 at 2:50 AM, mreaves said:

The biggest thing is that ground isn’t frozen to any real extent and all the water crossings are open. Most people think of bridges and culverts but trails cross a lot of wet ground and places that don’t lend themselves to bridges and culverts. There is a surprising amount of water in NNE even in normal years. 

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Been a really rough season in many ways.

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