Brian5671 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 3 minutes ago, kat5hurricane said: No it's not. You guys are being dramatic. Who knows if we'll see a period like 2000-2018 in our lifetimes again (likely not) but to say that snowy winters won't exist anymore is hyperbolic. The cold and snowy combo might be harder to come by though but we will have above normal snow winters again. the 2000-2018 run was epic in itself even without any warming....even if the climate stayed the same such a run might be difficult to come by.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatamy Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1.48” on the day at my station on Fire Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 i am looking forward to a possible soaker on tuesday... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 1 hour ago, nycwinter said: i am looking forward to a possible soaker on tuesday... We could use it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Still raining here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Through 10 pm, storm total rainfall amounts include: Atlantic City: 1.64" Boston: 1.37" Bridgeport: 1.19" Islip: 1.59" New Haven: 1.13" New York City: 0.76" Newark: 0.52" Philadelphia: 0.40" Providence: 1.54" White Plains: 0.52" Rain will end late tonight or early tomorrow with a storm total 0.50" - 1.50" rainfall with some locally higher amounts. the heaviest amounts will likely occur on Long Island. The closing days of March could turn warmer with widespread readings in the upper 50s and perhaps lower 60s. It is very likely that New York City's Central Park will finish the 2023-2024 snow season with less than 10" of seasonal snowfall for a record second consecutive season. Records go back to 1869. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was -0.1°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was +1.3°C for the week centered around March 20. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.67°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +1.35°C. The ongoing basinwide El Niño event is continuing to fade with the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly going negative for the first time since the week centered around January 25, 2023. Neutral conditions could develop later in the spring. The SOI was -11.97 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was -1.037 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied near 100% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal March (1991-2020 normal). March will likely finish with a mean temperature near 48.0° (5.3° above normal). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRRTA22 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 4 hours ago, Brian5671 said: the 2000-2018 run was epic in itself even without any warming....even if the climate stayed the same such a run might be difficult to come by.... Exactly....we'll get KUs again and probably on epic proportions in our new high moisture climate...We've just had bad luck haha Everyone is so accustomed to big winters that bad ones stick out more...NYC averages about 28" for a reason.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRRTA22 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 6 minutes ago, SRRTA22 said: Exactly....we'll get KUs again and probably on epic proportions in our new high moisture climate...We've just had bad luck haha Everyone is so accustomed to big winters that bad ones stick out more...NYC averages about 28" for a reason.... @Rmine1 must have drowned in all the rain he's been getting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 1.35 here so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Picked up 0.58" of rain for the day. Storm total 0.65" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatamy Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 7 hours ago, Tatamy said: 1.48” on the day at my station on Fire Island. Storm total at 1.65” for the event on Fire Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 11 hours ago, SRRTA22 said: Exactly....we'll get KUs again and probably on epic proportions in our new high moisture climate...We've just had bad luck haha Everyone is so accustomed to big winters that bad ones stick out more...NYC averages about 28" for a reason.... we'll have a lot more winters like 2015-16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 17 hours ago, Roger Smith said: As of 4:30 climate report, 0.65" (incl .06" yesterday) at NYC takes 2024 past 4 and 5 (1876, 1953) into fourth place at 8.89" with some more to come? But 1-3 are probably safe now (all above 10"). didn't get to 10" of rainfall here, but JFK came close (9.86")-- their rainiest March on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 8 hours ago, Tatamy said: Storm total at 1.65” for the event on Fire Island. JFK went over 1" too, the lower totals were from Manhattan on west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 50 sunny and winds beginning to pick up. Dry Easter weekend between the rain. April cooler/wetter till about the 10th before warming up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORMANLI Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 1.44" Felt like a lot more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Records: Highs: EWR: 89 (1945) NYC: 86 (1945) LGA: 86 (1945) Lows: EWR: 23 (1959) NYC: 10 (1923) LGA: 25 (2022) Historical: 1848: Niagara Falls eased to a trickle during the late afternoon and then became "silent" for 30 hours. Most people noticed the silence on the morning of the 30th. This is the only time in recorded history that both Falls stopped flowing. An ice jam at the neck of Lake Erie and the Niagara River entrance between Fort Erie, Ontario Canada, and Buffalo, NY, was caused by the wind, waves, and lake currents. People even ventured into the gorge, discovering relics like weapons from War of 1812. 1886 - Atlanta, GA, was drenched with a record 7.36 inches of rain in 24 hours. (The Weather Channel) 1920 - Clear Spring, MD, received 31 inches of snow in 24 hours to establish a state record. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders - 1987) 1921 - The temperature in Washington D.C. dropped from 82 degrees to 26 degrees thus ending an early spring. (David Ludlum) 1931: A blizzard struck western Kansas and adjoining states was called the "worst since January 1888". Twenty children, ages seven to fourteen, were stranded in a makeshift school bus for 33 hours during this blizzard. 1935 - A severe duststorm blanketed Amarillo, TX, for 84 hours. During one six hour period the visibility was near zero. (28th-31st) (The Weather Channel) 1935: On this date through March 31st, a great dust storm descended on Amarillo, Texas reducing visibility to zero for a six-hour period. 1942: A slow-moving low-pressure system brought 11.5 inches of snow to the nation's capital on March 29, 1942. It still stands as the highest March snowfall on record in Washington, D.C. on a single calendar day. Also, Baltimore, Maryland recorded an imposing total of 21.9 inches of snow on the same day. On the flip side, eight days later, the temperature in D.C. soared to 92 degrees on April 6, 1942, and it remains the highest temperature on record for April 6. 1945 - Providence, RI, hit 90 degrees to establish a March record for the New England area. (The Weather Channel) 1963: A decision was handed down in the case of Whitney Bartie vs. the United States of America. Bartie sued the U.S. Weather Bureau for negligence in failing to provide a warning about Hurricane Audrey in 1957. Bartie's wife and five children were killed after the 12-foot storm surge struck Cameron Parish, LA on the morning of June 27, 1957. It was ruled that the evidence presented did not establish negligence on the part of the Weather Bureau. 1987 - Thunderstorms spawned tornadoes in Mississippi, and produced high winds and heavy rain in Louisiana. Thunderstorm winds gusted to 92 mph at Houma LA, and caused a million dollars damage in Terrebonne Parish. Avondale LA was deluged with 4.52 inches of rain. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - Severe thunderstorms in the Lower Mississippi Valley spawned a tornado which injured two persons at Bunkie LA, and produced high winds which down a large tree onto a trailer at Bastrop LA claiming the life of one child and injuring another. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary) 1989 - Thunderstorms produced torrential rains in northeastern Texas and southwestern Arkansas. Longview TX reported 14.16 inches of rain. More than eleven inches of rain at Henderson TX caused a dam to give way, and people left stranded in trees had to be rescued by boat. Total damage in northeastern Texas was estimated at 10 to 16 million dollars. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1990 - Thunderstorms developing ahead of a cold front produced severe weather in southeastern Texas and southern Louisiana. Thunderstorms spawned seven tornadoes, including one which injured seven persons at Gray LA. Thunderstorms also produced golf ball size hail and wind gusts to 70 mph at Port O'Conner TX, and produced up to six inches of rain in Beauregard Parish LA. (Storm Data) 2007 - Eighteen year old Corey Williams is killed by a lightning bolt in Carbondale, IL, at the Community High School's first home track meet of the season. 2011 - A record 766 inches of snowfall at Boreal Ski Resort and nearly 59 feet at Squaw Valley in California's Sierra Nevadas are just two areas where snowfall records have been broke. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsPens87 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 16 hours ago, nycwinter said: i am looking forward to a possible soaker on tuesday... Tell me you're not a homeowner without telling me you're not a homeowner 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishcast_hater Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 59 minutes ago, SACRUS said: Records: Highs: EWR: 89 (1945) NYC: 86 (1945) LGA: 86 (1945) Lows: EWR: 23 (1959) NYC: 10 (1923) LGA: 25 (2022) Historical: 1848: Niagara Falls eased to a trickle during the late afternoon and then became "silent" for 30 hours. Most people noticed the silence on the morning of the 30th. This is the only time in recorded history that both Falls stopped flowing. An ice jam at the neck of Lake Erie and the Niagara River entrance between Fort Erie, Ontario Canada, and Buffalo, NY, was caused by the wind, waves, and lake currents. People even ventured into the gorge, discovering relics like weapons from War of 1812. 1886 - Atlanta, GA, was drenched with a record 7.36 inches of rain in 24 hours. (The Weather Channel) 1920 - Clear Spring, MD, received 31 inches of snow in 24 hours to establish a state record. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders - 1987) 1921 - The temperature in Washington D.C. dropped from 82 degrees to 26 degrees thus ending an early spring. (David Ludlum) 1931: A blizzard struck western Kansas and adjoining states was called the "worst since January 1888". Twenty children, ages seven to fourteen, were stranded in a makeshift school bus for 33 hours during this blizzard. 1935 - A severe duststorm blanketed Amarillo, TX, for 84 hours. During one six hour period the visibility was near zero. (28th-31st) (The Weather Channel) 1935: On this date through March 31st, a great dust storm descended on Amarillo, Texas reducing visibility to zero for a six-hour period. 1942: A slow-moving low-pressure system brought 11.5 inches of snow to the nation's capital on March 29, 1942. It still stands as the highest March snowfall on record in Washington, D.C. on a single calendar day. Also, Baltimore, Maryland recorded an imposing total of 21.9 inches of snow on the same day. On the flip side, eight days later, the temperature in D.C. soared to 92 degrees on April 6, 1942, and it remains the highest temperature on record for April 6. 1945 - Providence, RI, hit 90 degrees to establish a March record for the New England area. (The Weather Channel) 1963: A decision was handed down in the case of Whitney Bartie vs. the United States of America. Bartie sued the U.S. Weather Bureau for negligence in failing to provide a warning about Hurricane Audrey in 1957. Bartie's wife and five children were killed after the 12-foot storm surge struck Cameron Parish, LA on the morning of June 27, 1957. It was ruled that the evidence presented did not establish negligence on the part of the Weather Bureau. 1987 - Thunderstorms spawned tornadoes in Mississippi, and produced high winds and heavy rain in Louisiana. Thunderstorm winds gusted to 92 mph at Houma LA, and caused a million dollars damage in Terrebonne Parish. Avondale LA was deluged with 4.52 inches of rain. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - Severe thunderstorms in the Lower Mississippi Valley spawned a tornado which injured two persons at Bunkie LA, and produced high winds which down a large tree onto a trailer at Bastrop LA claiming the life of one child and injuring another. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary) 1989 - Thunderstorms produced torrential rains in northeastern Texas and southwestern Arkansas. Longview TX reported 14.16 inches of rain. More than eleven inches of rain at Henderson TX caused a dam to give way, and people left stranded in trees had to be rescued by boat. Total damage in northeastern Texas was estimated at 10 to 16 million dollars. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1990 - Thunderstorms developing ahead of a cold front produced severe weather in southeastern Texas and southern Louisiana. Thunderstorms spawned seven tornadoes, including one which injured seven persons at Gray LA. Thunderstorms also produced golf ball size hail and wind gusts to 70 mph at Port O'Conner TX, and produced up to six inches of rain in Beauregard Parish LA. (Storm Data) 2007 - Eighteen year old Corey Williams is killed by a lightning bolt in Carbondale, IL, at the Community High School's first home track meet of the season. 2011 - A record 766 inches of snowfall at Boreal Ski Resort and nearly 59 feet at Squaw Valley in California's Sierra Nevadas are just two areas where snowfall records have been broke. Look at all that climate change even in the 1800's! - I hit the bees nest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 3 hours ago, SACRUS said: Records: Highs: EWR: 89 (1945) NYC: 86 (1945) LGA: 86 (1945) Lows: EWR: 23 (1959) NYC: 10 (1923) LGA: 25 (2022) Historical: 1848: Niagara Falls eased to a trickle during the late afternoon and then became "silent" for 30 hours. Most people noticed the silence on the morning of the 30th. This is the only time in recorded history that both Falls stopped flowing. An ice jam at the neck of Lake Erie and the Niagara River entrance between Fort Erie, Ontario Canada, and Buffalo, NY, was caused by the wind, waves, and lake currents. People even ventured into the gorge, discovering relics like weapons from War of 1812. 1886 - Atlanta, GA, was drenched with a record 7.36 inches of rain in 24 hours. (The Weather Channel) 1920 - Clear Spring, MD, received 31 inches of snow in 24 hours to establish a state record. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders - 1987) 1921 - The temperature in Washington D.C. dropped from 82 degrees to 26 degrees thus ending an early spring. (David Ludlum) 1931: A blizzard struck western Kansas and adjoining states was called the "worst since January 1888". Twenty children, ages seven to fourteen, were stranded in a makeshift school bus for 33 hours during this blizzard. 1935 - A severe duststorm blanketed Amarillo, TX, for 84 hours. During one six hour period the visibility was near zero. (28th-31st) (The Weather Channel) 1935: On this date through March 31st, a great dust storm descended on Amarillo, Texas reducing visibility to zero for a six-hour period. 1942: A slow-moving low-pressure system brought 11.5 inches of snow to the nation's capital on March 29, 1942. It still stands as the highest March snowfall on record in Washington, D.C. on a single calendar day. Also, Baltimore, Maryland recorded an imposing total of 21.9 inches of snow on the same day. On the flip side, eight days later, the temperature in D.C. soared to 92 degrees on April 6, 1942, and it remains the highest temperature on record for April 6. 1945 - Providence, RI, hit 90 degrees to establish a March record for the New England area. (The Weather Channel) 1963: A decision was handed down in the case of Whitney Bartie vs. the United States of America. Bartie sued the U.S. Weather Bureau for negligence in failing to provide a warning about Hurricane Audrey in 1957. Bartie's wife and five children were killed after the 12-foot storm surge struck Cameron Parish, LA on the morning of June 27, 1957. It was ruled that the evidence presented did not establish negligence on the part of the Weather Bureau. 1987 - Thunderstorms spawned tornadoes in Mississippi, and produced high winds and heavy rain in Louisiana. Thunderstorm winds gusted to 92 mph at Houma LA, and caused a million dollars damage in Terrebonne Parish. Avondale LA was deluged with 4.52 inches of rain. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - Severe thunderstorms in the Lower Mississippi Valley spawned a tornado which injured two persons at Bunkie LA, and produced high winds which down a large tree onto a trailer at Bastrop LA claiming the life of one child and injuring another. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary) 1989 - Thunderstorms produced torrential rains in northeastern Texas and southwestern Arkansas. Longview TX reported 14.16 inches of rain. More than eleven inches of rain at Henderson TX caused a dam to give way, and people left stranded in trees had to be rescued by boat. Total damage in northeastern Texas was estimated at 10 to 16 million dollars. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1990 - Thunderstorms developing ahead of a cold front produced severe weather in southeastern Texas and southern Louisiana. Thunderstorms spawned seven tornadoes, including one which injured seven persons at Gray LA. Thunderstorms also produced golf ball size hail and wind gusts to 70 mph at Port O'Conner TX, and produced up to six inches of rain in Beauregard Parish LA. (Storm Data) 2007 - Eighteen year old Corey Williams is killed by a lightning bolt in Carbondale, IL, at the Community High School's first home track meet of the season. 2011 - A record 766 inches of snowfall at Boreal Ski Resort and nearly 59 feet at Squaw Valley in California's Sierra Nevadas are just two areas where snowfall records have been broke. 1945 - Providence, RI, hit 90 degrees to establish a March record for the New England area. (The Weather Channel) wow how did it hit 90 degrees this early in the season in Providence and yet it's never happened in March in NYC? NYC is much further away from the ocean than Providence is, not to mention also further south! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Well it was 86 NYC for a monthly record on same day (1945, tied in 1998 on 31st). Believe it or not, average daily high for March 16 to April 15 of 1945 (31 days) was 68.8, a degree warmer than May and actually warmer than any 31-day interval until May 10 to June 10 of same year. The interval June 1 to 6 was particularly cold setting a lot of low temperature records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 6 minutes ago, Roger Smith said: Well it was 86 NYC for a monthly record on same day (1945, tied in 1998 on 31st). Believe it or not, average daily high for March 16 to April 15 of 1945 (31 days) was 68.8, a degree warmer than May and actually warmer than any 31-day interval until May 10 to June 10 of same year. The interval June 1 to 6 was particularly cold setting a lot of low temperature records. Thanks Roger, do you have JFK data for that date? I didn't see it in the report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 22 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Thanks Roger, do you have JFK data for that date? I didn't see it in the report. JFK Airport's period of record began in July 1948. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 I would guess probably about 80-82 at location of JFK, if they could have taken the reading, it looks like a WSW flow which probably explains PVD getting to 90F. It had been very mild for weeks all over the country (and in southern Ontario) so there was probably no snow south of Lake Superior since early in the month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 03-29-1945 it was also 86F at BOS, 87F at PhL, and 90F at BWI (or nearby as it's their official record). DCA was 92F in 1907 but it could have been 90-91 there in 1945 also (IAD record is 1998 so probably period doesn't extend back to 1945 there). Albany's record was 85F in 1946 which was just about as hot late in month. It must have generated a lot of talk back then when two consecutive years had notably warm months (march). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brian5671 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 1 minute ago, Allsnow said: very impressive for Worcester not to see anything in March.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 2 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: very impressive for Worcester not to see anything in March.... More impressive is the fact how wet Orh has been with such little snow to show for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 3 minutes ago, Allsnow said: More impressive is the fact how wet Orh has been with such little snow to show for it even here 10 inches of rain and not even a T of snow... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 1 hour ago, Brian5671 said: even here 10 inches of rain and not even a T of snow... Are you aware that our three rainiest Marches (all with 10 inches or more of rain) resulted in three of our hottest summers -- 2010, 1983 and 1980! We're at number 4 currently. WOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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