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Late Feb/March Medium/Long Range Discussion


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1 minute ago, Heisy said:

I’m out of the loop, does the OP euro not exist anymore? Pivotal only has this new version, check this H5 look it has for 6z run

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They discontinued the op and now consider the control run as the new op. The AIFS is their new AI-based model. Will be interesting to see how it performs. 

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They discontinued the op and now consider the control run as the new op. The AIFS is their new AI-based model. Will be interesting to see how it performs. 

Ah I see thanks. Not a bad setup, ha, would need that 50/50 a little farther S. I’m still checking in here and there


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13 minutes ago, Heisy said:

Meh second glance there’s no cold air really so would need a miracle track


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Yeah, its over. Not enough cold air to make something happen outside of interier northern New England or maybe at 3,000+

Don’t worry, I’ll stick around for severe weather season!

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Happy you guys saw the snow you did this year. A couple overperformers down / over there IIRC? At least a significant improvement to last year!

I walked away with 11 on the season in my location in coastal NJ, which I consider a miracle given the warm character of the winter. Very lucky to get the brief wintry reprieves that we did.

I know the assumed variables heading into next winter are looking unfavorable and am not challenging that, but lately I’m hoping a Niña can give the East coast a chance at slightly colder temperature profiles if we can snag a period of -EPO which still seems to work well enough for most of us. Expectations will be low, but hoping we can luck into a Jan 22 type period that hopefully is rewarding for most. 

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11 minutes ago, Volcanic Winter said:

Happy you guys saw the snow you did this year. A couple overperformers down / over there IIRC? At least a significant improvement to last year!

I walked away with 11 on the season in my location in coastal NJ, 

Um, our snow totals were kinda shit. The bar cannot be in comparison to a historically awful year.

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9 minutes ago, North Balti Zen said:

Um, our snow totals were kinda shit. The bar cannot be in comparison to a historically awful year.

My point was at least something fell on multiple occasions, for such an ugly warm winter I’d take that as a small victory. That’s all. Meant well. 

Been pulling for you guys to get crushed, it’s long overdue as we know acutely well.  My nephew lives in Cockeysville MD now for grad school, and this was his first winter there.

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Crazy at work today, but we are looking for the ensembles to be showing a transition to a very cold week leading into Easter;  actually the control run today at Day 15 is trying to show it.  Again, long shot but not impossible to see something leading into Easter.  Latest weekly extended control has a storm...(WB)

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Looks like another 2 inches of rain here tonight through Wed, followed by more rain this weekend. Oh joy. Combined with the mild temps, the mosquito larvicide will need to go in a couple weeks sooner than ever before. This is some real, actual tangible weather impacts worth discussing. Not some silly ass control run snow map for late March that has absolutely zero chance of verifying.

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18 minutes ago, CAPE said:

Looks like another 2 inches of rain here tonight through Wed, followed by more rain this weekend. Oh joy. Combined with the mild temps, the mosquito larvicide will need to go in a couple weeks sooner than ever before. This is some real, actual tangible weather impacts worth discussing. Not some silly ass control run snow map for late March that have absolutely zero chance of verifying.

Agreed...everybody just needs to move the fuck on

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8 hours ago, Terpeast said:

Yeah, its over. Not enough cold air to make something happen outside of interier northern New England or maybe at 3,000+

Don’t worry, I’ll stick around for severe weather season!

I am very surprised that a supposed professional would say its over on March 4.

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2 hours ago, Weather Will said:

Crazy at work today, but we are looking for the ensembles to be showing a transition to a very cold week leading into Easter;  actually the control run today at Day 15 is trying to show it.  Again, long shot but not impossible to see something leading into Easter.  Latest weekly extended control has a storm...(WB)

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 It's over. Really,  talk about upcoming hurricane season. Atlantic Ocean is very warm already.

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Not giving up until the models do another 180 like they did for late February.  But this time is different ...the ensembles and extended guidance are more in sync.  What do I mean by that....the gradual return to cold ( I know it may not be cold enough, is showing up late in the ensemble runs.  The EPO is tanking and the other teleconnections are lining up as we end the third week of March which could give us the Arctic air we need,  The extended EPS snow mean, not control, keeps increasing (WB). Latest run compared to 13 runs ago.  And the MJO is moving into less hostile phases.Will it happen, probably not, but I am not completely crazy; will be the first to admit when Lucy strikes again and kills it.

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5 minutes ago, Weather Will said:

Not giving up until the models do another 180 like they did for late February.  But this time is different ...the ensembles and extended guidance are more in sync.  What do I mean by that....the gradual return to cold ( I know it may not be cold enough, is showing up late in the ensemble runs.  The EPO is tanking and the other teleconnections are lining up as we end the third week of March which could give us the Arctic air we need,  The extended EPS snow mean, not control, keeps increasing (WB). Latest run compared to 13 runs ago.  And the MJO is moving into less hostile phases.Will it happen, probably not, but I am not completely crazy; will be the first to admit when Lucy strikes again and kills it.

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Alright WW be honest...is this a "Don't quit until the final out" mentality except for snow? That's the only thing that makes sense...so...why? (You're not gonna answer this are you? Lol)

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5 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said:

Alright WW be honest...is this a "Don't quit until the final out" mentality except for snow? That's the only thing that makes sense...so...why? (You're not gonna answer this are you? Lol)

I am being sincere..., I know a late March snow would be an historic event, but it can happen.  Oh and I am no troll, only trolls I know are in Tolkien land....

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30 minutes ago, Ji said:

I’m with will. If the models are showing a winter pattern and there is a chance….im still tracking

The rest of you all can eat dirt lol

The rest of us just don't care at this point. 

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