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2024-2025 La Nina


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12 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said:

Obviously the Great Lakes are a different climate than the east coast, but im noticing the cold vs snow thing, especially this year since its been such a cold January with very little snow (in the north) outside the lakes. Weve done ok in SE MI- snow has been below avg and precip well below avg, but we have had some snow on the ground nearly all month. But west of the lakes (Chicago, Minneapolis, Green Bay, etc) its been frozen dry ground. I have no problem with people liking what they like, but im definitely finding some weenies contradicting themselves locally. All the complaining about recent mild winters...but really, in the post 2007-15 record snow era, snowfall has been largely around avg here before last winter. So I have to say to them, if all you care about is snow thats fine, but then you need to give those mild winters more credit and less bitching lol. (again im talking about the masses...I personally love snow AND cold).

Yes one of my favorite and most memorable snowstorms happened during a mild winter overall, 2015-16, over 30 inches of snow in one snowstorm and -1 on Valentines Day!  One of my favorite winters for those two reasons alone (we also had some other moderate snowstorms that winter.)

We had over 40 inches of snow that season with a seasonal average temperature over 40 degrees.

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57 minutes ago, GaWx said:

 I don’t disagree for the most part. But I was responding to CWG’s tweet saying this:

“MJO approach to phase 7 could flip pattern back to cold side for U.S. by 2nd week of February, similar to super-warm late December
to cold early January flip from this winter.”

 So, the tweet was referring explicitly to temperatures and said nothing about snow. Thus, my response was referring to just temperatures based on what 0Z/6Z model consensus was showing. I wasn’t at all addressing snow, which is much more unpredictable, especially 11+ days out, since it is so dependent on precise storm track and actually having a storm at the right time.

 Also, some do care about temps on their own.

Yes-- and we're more focused on snow instead of cold also because cold has become more rare as the years go by (regardless of enso state, warmer winters are canonical now....)

 

 

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