LibertyBell Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, donsutherland1 said: 3.2" at Central Park. Snow-to-liquid ratio: 4.2:1 The record streak without 2" or above daily snowfall ends at 744 days. Don, can you give us the snow to liquid ratio for JFK and LGA too? Thanks. The only number out of those three I feel confident about is JFK, there is about 4 inches here-- or there was at the end of the storm-- it's been melting rapidly since it ended at 1 PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudsonvalley21 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 16 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: 12.7 here for my final. Most of Orange County NY was around a foot. 12.2” here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, forkyfork said: you can almost watch it melt Yep, even melting on the trees lol 1 hour after it ended about half of it is gone. This is like ice cream, you've got to eat it quickly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, SBUWX23 said: Live your lives and stop fretting over the snow at the park. It is consistent with LGA and not far off from other official measurements. The NYC and LGA similarity is why I agree. Also, JFK with 4.2 is right on target with my measurement of 4.6 about 5 miles to its east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HVSnowLover Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 54 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Central Park 3 inches Coney island 7 inches Seems urban vs rural made the biggest difference in this storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, brooklynwx99 said: 6.5" here! can't believe we're going to see widespread 6-12" totals in NNJ, LI, and the LHV (heat island spots in inner NYC notwithstanding) about 4" here on the south shore of western Nassau too. I'd say 4-6 on the south shore and 6-8 inches elsewhere. Double digit numbers are for areas further inland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, the_other_guy said: We don’t know that they do measure low. It is a narrative on this site. If it was really that bad at one of the Marquis weather sites in the country (because of location) it would be fixed. The fact that it isnt tells me it isnt as bad or off as many on this site claim it to be. More of a folklore with a little grain of truth gone wild. Nope totally wrong, and I have a long history with them regarding this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guinness77 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 15 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: It didn't threaten it actually came out and most of the snow on the trees has already fallen off or melted and we have large puddles on the streets now. An hour after it got done snowing, a significant amount of snow has already melted lol. Unpopular opinion…I don’t mind at all. Love getting the occasional 2-footer, and love the sight of the snow in the air, but once the storm has cleared, it can all melt as far as I’m concerned. If it’s not a monster storm, anything less than a foot gets sloppy and inconveniencing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 23 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: 12.7 here for my final. Most of Orange County NY was around a foot. Looks like 12-14" throughout. Areas from Port jervis to Warwick on the Orange/Sussex border were 14-15" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 7 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Don, can you give us the snow to liquid ratio for JFK and LGA too? Thanks. The only number out of those three I feel confident about is JFK, there is about 4 inches here-- or there was at the end of the storm-- it's been melting rapidly since it ended at 1 PM. JFK Airport: 6.5:1 LaGuardia Airport: 5.2:1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, guinness77 said: Unpopular opinion…I don’t mind at all. Love getting the occasional 2-footer, and love the sight of the snow in the air, but once the storm has cleared, it can all melt as far as I’m concerned. If it’s not a monster storm, anything less than a foot gets sloppy and inconveniencing. I don't care either-it's not like we live in a great snowpack retention area 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Wow, this stuff is literally like cement. Compacting like crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 remember when it would be below freezing behind a snowstorm 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 7 minutes ago, HVSnowLover said: Seems urban vs rural made the biggest difference in this storm. Coney Island is not rural though... I'd say that 7 inch measurement at Coney Island is a bit suspect but who really knows? Could be they were under better banding. JFK had 4.2 which is in line with my 4.6 measurement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Just now, forkyfork said: remember when it would be below freezing behind a snowstorm Yeah it hasn't happened in a few years lol. What happened to the backside of noreasters bringing down cold air from the north? The wind is coming from the north but no cold air lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 5 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: JFK Airport: 6.5:1 LaGuardia Airport: 5.2:1 Thanks Don, JFK being at 32 for several hours during the storm (about 7 hours) might explain their higher ratio. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 8 minutes ago, guinness77 said: Unpopular opinion…I don’t mind at all. Love getting the occasional 2-footer, and love the sight of the snow in the air, but once the storm has cleared, it can all melt as far as I’m concerned. If it’s not a monster storm, anything less than a foot gets sloppy and inconveniencing. I feel the same way, I just like taking pictures of it after it's finished. After that it can melt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: I feel the same way, I just like taking pictures of it after it's finished. After that it can melt. i'd prefer the climate our ecosystem evolved with 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 11 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: Nope totally wrong, and I have a long history with them regarding this. I measured 4.6 about 5 miles to the east of JFK's 4.2 so that is one number I can vouch for. Not sure about the other 2, a 4:1 snow to liquid ratio seems suspect lol. Also, add this in, JFK didn't change over completely to snow until 6:15, I actually woke up when the last sleet pellets were falling right around 6:08 or so. And there was only a coating of snow and sleet on the ground here until about 7 AM when Central Park already had an inch and a half on the ground and that's when the heavier bands moved in for us. So I guess we somehow caught up to them and then passed them and ended up with an inch to an inch and a half more than them lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, forkyfork said: i'd prefer the climate our ecosystem evolved with Oh I feel the same way and I also feel that way about preserving the natural environment instead of these densely populated concrete jungles that humankind likes to pollute the planet with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveWinter Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 23 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: Probably closer to 4-4.5. The reason we care is they have been doing this for decades. Not every time, but the majority of the time, and they're especially bad on most of the big ones. The only period I've ever seen decent accurate measurements was when they had the Conservatory taking the measurements for several years in the 2010's. Why they stopped that I'd love to know. I do care too and have made many comments about their inaccuracy in the past. For this storm I don't think they were far off. I measured around 3.5 in a few spots. Edit: To add, I woke up early (630) and even then there was only an inch at most so there was some lost totals due to UHI. Also we were in the heavy rates for only 90 mins or so mid morning so this also really prevented higher accumulations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I got this storm all wrong. Definitely one of the most challenging storms I’ve ever seen since I’ve been a weather hobbyist. Never seen the models this bad, this close in. But I’m more than happy to admit I was wrong. Hope everyone enjoyed the snow. It was impressive and really a big surprise is what has been a complete dud of a winter until today…. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, snowman19 said: I got this storm all wrong. Definitely one of the most challenging storms I’ve ever seen since I’ve been a weather hobbyist. Never seen the models this bad, this close in. But I’m more than happy to admit I was wrong. Hope everyone enjoyed the snow. It was impressive and really a big surprise is what has been a complete dud of a winter until today…. Lots of people with egg on their face from this. Boston had a snow emergency for less than 1” total. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 23 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: Nope totally wrong, and I have a long history with them regarding this. Great. No offense, I need more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, snowman19 said: I got this storm all wrong. Definitely one of the most challenging storms I’ve ever seen since I’ve been a weather hobbyist. Never seen the models this bad, this close in. But I’m more than happy to admit I was wrong. Hope everyone enjoyed the snow. It was impressive and really a big surprise is what has been a complete dud of a winter until today…. We can all admit failure. This storm was definitely challenging to forecast. I also couldn’t help but weenie you, it was well deserved. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, snowman19 said: I got this storm all wrong. Definitely one of the most challenging storms I’ve ever seen since I’ve been a weather hobbyist. Never seen the models this bad, this close in. But I’m more than happy to admit I was wrong. Hope everyone enjoyed the snow. It was impressive and really a big surprise is what has been a complete dud of a winter until today…. Just shows a thread the needle storm like this can work sometimes even with the odds stacked against it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 5 minutes ago, snowman19 said: I got this storm all wrong. Definitely one of the most challenging storms I’ve ever seen since I’ve been a weather hobbyist. Never seen the models this bad, this close in. But I’m more than happy to admit I was wrong. Hope everyone enjoyed the snow. It was impressive and really a big surprise is what has been a complete dud of a winter until today…. This wasn't exactly a great storm, but it was a nice storm to get after 2 years of nearly nothing. Pretty much everyone got this storm wrong, even the people who thought the city would get a foot of snow or that north of the city would get barely anything lol. All the models were wrong too, don't beat yourself up about it lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, uofmiami said: We can all admit failure. This storm was definitely challenging to forecast. I also couldn’t help but weenie you, it was well deserved. You can do it because you guys up there got 8 inches of snow somehow, that's a big weenie lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, winterwx21 said: Always great to read your posts during snowstorms. Thanks!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Ended with 8.0” here. Great storm. Snowblower had no problems today. Troy Bilt is a beast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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