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Following a Miller A/B hybrid type coastal potential, Feb 13th ... As yet untapped potential and a higher ceiling with this one


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Just now, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said:

Have you seen the last 25 pages?

Indeed.  Hence why I was scratching my head that warnings in place in the spots they were, plus adding further S and E.  Feels marginal if criteria will even be met there.

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My area was never in the game for really big totals, but at this time yesterday we were progged for 6-8 and as of this morning the NWS GYX probabilistic map still had us at >60% for 6+. Now it looks quite possible that we won't see a single flake.

As others have noted, what makes it especially bewildering is that the goalposts had seemed to close and we were down to minor oscillations - then the rug got pulled out completely less than 24 hours out. It also seems unusual to have things move south so dramatically in the absence of a big dome of cold air pushing down; usually you associate suppression with deep cold. It feels like spring out there again today.

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5 minutes ago, PWMan said:

My area was never in the game for really big totals, but at this time yesterday we were progged for 6-8 and as of this morning the NWS Gray probabilistic map still had us at >60% for 6+. Now it looks quite possible that we won't see a single flake.

As others have noted, what makes it especially bewildering is that the goalposts had seemed to close and we were down to minor oscillations - then the rug got pulled out completely. It also seems unusual for to have things move south so dramatically in the absence of a big dome of cold air pushing down; usually you associate suppression with deep cold. It feels like spring out there again today.

Folks will conflate/blame those two as interrelated and I'm not sure that's the case.   Both situations are true ( looking), while the error for the 'minor' vs the total collapse likely coming from different handling. The stuff before was normal noise we see in these types of systems

This thing today behaved like a proverbial demolition crew finished setting up the charges and brought Vegas casino down.  Something changed in the data going into the models all at once

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1 minute ago, Typhoon Tip said:

Folks will conflate/blame those two as interrelated and I'm not sure that's the case.   Both situations are true ( looking), while the error source in the models look to be coming from different handling. The stuff before was normal noise.

This thing today behaved like a proverbial demolition crew finished setting up the charges and brought Vegas casino down. The stuff before was normal noise.  Something changed in the data going into the models all at once

The Euro got the data first at 6z-2 cycles prior to most other models

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Just now, HinghamBoss said:

Your 4-7 prediction here may all work out...albeit not how we envisioned it.

Absolutely not what I envisioned. We'll see, maybe this tickles north on the short term guidance. We actually need the good rates to wetbulb down.

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6 minutes ago, 8611Blizz said:

Fwiw NBC holding on to 5-8 for boston and channel 5 is 4-8 for our area. They both seem a little nervous though...

I would be too. When it's 1-2 inches and almost all the schools closed based of these models from 12 hours ago. I know the meteorologists are probably watching the radar now hoping that everything comes together for this storm to trend north 20-30 miles. They can't really rely on models too much from this point forward. 

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