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Following a Miller A/B hybrid type coastal potential, Feb 13th ... As yet untapped potential and a higher ceiling with this one

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15.2" in West Hartford here at the station. Nuts.

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You guys are acting like your on the spectrum with this shit at this point.  It's that bad - wtf

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  On 2/8/2024 at 8:01 PM, 40/70 Benchmark said:

Most strong el Nino winters have a KU....

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It still boggles my mind, even after all the discussion this summer, how some still think that a strong EL Nino mean no snow or little snow. We have had strong EL Nino's with plenty of snow. There are also plenty of EL Nino's with lots of snow and plenty with little snow. 

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  On 2/8/2024 at 8:03 PM, weatherwiz said:

It still boggles my mind, even after all the discussion this summer, how some still think that a strong EL Nino mean no snow or little snow. We have had strong EL Nino's with plenty of snow. There are also plenty of EL Nino's with lots of snow and plenty with little snow. 

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Preconceived notions are data resistant....just like the crap about the volcano making for a very storng PV...I researched it last summer and cited several reasons why that wouldn't be the case, but 'alas...

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  On 2/8/2024 at 8:08 PM, Greg said:

Not sure I agree totally with that. '78 was a week el nino, '69 was a moderate, 2005 weak, 2015 week. Only Feb 1983 was strong.

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2010, 1983, 1966, 1958

You are deflecting the issue....yes, weak el Nino is better....no one argued that. But you implied that it doesn't happen in strong el Nino, which is different and incorrect.

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  On 2/8/2024 at 8:08 PM, 40/70 Benchmark said:

2010, 1983, 1966, 1958

You are deflecting the issue....yes, weak el Nino is better....no one argued that. But you implied that it doesn't happen in strong el Nino, which is different and incorrect.

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I did indicate 1983 as you saw I stated. Depends upon one's definition of a big storm. and what area coverage. 

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  On 2/8/2024 at 8:15 PM, Greg said:

I did indicate 1983 as you saw I stated. Depends upon one's definition of a big storm. and what area coverage. 

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This is a great point, but this also raises conflict. If you're discussing this stuff taking a scientific approach, you can't have a million definitions and criteria otherwise there is just mass confusion. I suppose though having a ton of different definitions is fine, but the criteria needs to be established and there also needs to be sound reasoning. 

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  On 2/8/2024 at 7:48 PM, Ginx snewx said:

Euro says Let's drift the shit out of this snow for a week straight. Heavy winds and low  below zero dews and fresh snow with wind chills near 0 and teens for a week. Let's massive drift this bitch.

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Our new treadmill gets delivered Monday so bring it.  I timed the pattern for when it should be harder to exercise outdoors.

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  On 2/8/2024 at 8:32 PM, NEPASnow said:

this is only strong by sea surface temps and nothing else, this was a weak-mod el nino based on soi

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I still mostly use the traditional average ONI's for the main determinant variable. However, the other variables such as the SOI and so forth can help to modify/subvert certain elements in a strong El Nino winter where one can "Buck the trend' in certain circumstances.

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  On 2/8/2024 at 8:45 PM, weathafella said:

1957-58 was strong with a monster in February and then the famous March 58. The one thing about March 58 is I was staring at 10-12 inches which was slushy on the roads making sledding on hard packed street snow/ice virtually impossible.

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Not sure 1.8 for an average is solid strong but moderate to strong for sure depending on the definition. But yes, Big East Coast storm for all the big I-95 cities and suburbia.

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 To me a 0.1-0.4 is Enso neutral positive, 0.5 is Beginning weak. 0.5-1.0 is Weak to Mod, 1.0 is solid Mod, 1.0-1.5 Mod - Strong, 1.5 Beging Strong, 1.5 - 2.0 Strong to very strong, and 2.0 + or higher Super/Extreme whatever floats one's boat for a description.

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