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2024 - tracking the tropics


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49 minutes ago, Diggiebot said:

Literally not true. It has happened a lot recently for Atlantic Canada but NE had two cat 3’s in one season. Small sample size. Lots of cat ones and tropical storms. 

They get 3-5 every year versus 0-2 for this area. Which was the point of their post…

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For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

1. Near the Lesser and Greater Antilles (AL98):
Showers and thunderstorms continue to show some signs of 
organization in association with a broad area of low pressure 
located about 1000 miles east of the Lesser Antilles.  
Environmental conditions appear conducive for gradual development of 
this system, and a tropical depression is likely to form within the 
next couple of days while the system approaches and then moves near 
or over the Leeward Islands.  Interests on these islands should 
continue to monitor the progress of this system, and watches 
or warnings could be required for portions of the area as soon as 
later today.  The system could approach portions of the Greater 
Antilles by the middle of the week.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...high...70 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...high...90 percent.



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9 minutes ago, wdrag said:

Seems a little interesting to me next weekend IF the possible Ernesto has slowed to the slowest cluster off the Carolinas,  then it would be interesting up the coast as at this time, the GEFS is sharpening the trough along 80W.  Depends of course on Ernesto actualizing per the seemingly multi models, and then running slower than the mean.  Check 06z/11 180-192 hour GEFS 5H.

 

 

 

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As is how things almost always go with mdr threats east of leewards. Gotta miss the first trough, or it’s way out to sea.  Really needs to stay well south of 20N while passing Puerto Rico for that to happen.  


This one has a good start point and early trajectory to miss…but it’s a coin toss considering most of latest guidance shows otherwise.  

 

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Initial trough hangs back long enough to start the north turn quickly. The turn happens too fast and too far east for the second trough over the eastern U.S. to influence it much.

We’ve had cross guidance agreement on this for a bit now. Sure it could change but it looks unlikely to me. Still worth watching closely in Atlantic Canada. Casual eye here. 

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19 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

Initial trough hangs back long enough to start the north turn quickly. The turn happens too fast and too far east for the second trough over the eastern U.S. to influence it much.

We’ve had cross guidance agreement on this for a bit now. Sure it could change but it looks unlikely to me. Still worth watching closely in Atlantic Canada. Casual eye here. 

We need a good hit this summer.

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10 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Thanks for posting something of substance from an experienced, and talented MET. :thumbsup:

Thanks bro. I try to lend and teach what I’ve learned  over the years to the more inexperienced here that those things like “he gone” certainly getting more interesting for the East coast 

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Just generally, the initial trough is absolutely not where it needs to be for anything close to an US EC close approach. It doesn’t take much to kick an MDR system away from the coast. Respect the hell out of Walt but this can’t even get within 1,000 miles of the Carolina coast with that trough as depicted.

Atlantic Canada is a different story because like Fiona and some other recent storms it’s no guarantee the initial trough is enough to pull it all the way NE into the North Atlantic. 

Initial trough is there at relatively short range to scoop future Ernesto up

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Critically, that prevents a more westerly track in advance of the second trough, which would’ve been in the general location that favors some type of close approach or EC hit. Ernesto is simply too far east to be pulled off its recurve path toward the U.S., but not far enough potentially for Canada. 

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Like Will would say in winter, you need changes in the initial trough to start showing up immediately…for any U.S. close approach to be in the realm of possibility. 

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