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2024 - tracking the tropics


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3 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

No Maui was our big vaca this summer. Got back last Thursday. Scoots is in the Cape 

Ah gotcha.  Fair trade Maui for Cape Cod, ha.

I’d punt an entire week of beach weather on the Cape to be there for a solution like that 18z GFS.  

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WTNT44 KNHC 022036
TCDAT4

Potential Tropical Cyclone Four Discussion Number   2
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL       AL042024
500 PM EDT Fri Aug 02 2024

Convection and vorticity associated with the tropical wave, now over
central Cuba, have both increased a little this afternoon.  However,
the circulation is still not well-defined, and the convection is
not yet well enough organized to consider the system to be a
tropical depression.  So, the system remains a potential tropical
cyclone at this time.  A NOAA Hurricane Hunter is currently
investigating the northern side of the wave, and a combination of
its dropsondes and earlier scatterometer data suggest that the
maximum winds remain near 25 kt.

The poorly-defined center has moved more westward since the previous 
advisory.  However the overall motion remains about 290/14 kt. A 
turn toward the northwest and north is expected during the next 
couple of days as the system moves into a break in the subtropical 
ridge caused by a mid-latitude trough over the Ohio Valley.  This 
should be followed by recurvature into the westerlies after 48-60 h. 
On the forecast track, the system is expected to move into the 
Straits of Florida and the southeastern Gulf of Mexico on Saturday, 
followed by a motion near the west coast of Florida Saturday night 
and Sunday.  After that time, the system should cross the northern 
Florida peninsula and move over the Atlantic near or offshore of 
the southeastern coast of the United States.  While the track 
guidance generally agrees with this scenario, there are a couple of 
issues. First, the GFS moves the system much faster northeastward, 
and by 72 h it is forecasting the center to be off of the South 
Carolina coast. Meanwhile, the ECMWF and UKMET still have the 
center over the Gulf of Mexico. Second, due to the track being 
almost parallel to both the west coast of the Florida peninsula and 
the southeastern U. S. coast, small changes in the track could 
cause large differences in potential landfalls and which land areas 
receive the strongest impacts.

There is little change in the intensity forecast philosophy from the 
previous advisory.  Slow development is possible while the system is 
over Cuba, and the system is likely to become a tropical depression 
soon after it moves offshore on Saturday. The environment over the 
Gulf of Mexico is quite favorable for strengthening with light shear 
and very warm sea-surface temperatures, so subsequent steady 
strengthening is expected.  The two biggest uncertainties in the 
intensity forecast are how long the system will remain offshore of 
Florida and how long it will take to consolidate.  The system is 
likely to weaken as it crosses Florida, with re-intensification 
likely over the Atlantic after 72 h.
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1 minute ago, Torch Tiger said:

It's a long shot for a scrape or a weakened TD/TS landfall, and a near impossible for a hurricane to landfall in SNE.

Don't be a Debbie Downer. This has '38 written all over it.

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13 minutes ago, kdxken said:

Don't be a Debbie Downer. This has '38 written all over it.

Never say never since the "storm" hasn't developed yet. The size and scope of the storm will have an impact on the U/A surrounding it and models won't near see those deets for several days.  However yes, '38 headed in

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1 hour ago, Torch Tiger said:

Yeah I'm game :lol:  But for TC season, and you will agree, it's mostly about the wind.  Little wind impacts (Floyd, Bertha et al) and it's a snoozer

Maybe if wind is just your thing then yeah, sure, but flooding rains are a real deal with these and are just as impactful if not more devastating than the winds for NE TC.
 

I know you know all of this but this has much more of a chance to be a flooding disaster than wind impacts 

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7 minutes ago, BombsAway1288 said:

Maybe if wind is just your thing then yeah, sure, but flooding rains are a real deal with these and are just as impactful if not more devastating than the winds for NE TC.
 

I know you know all of this but this has much more of a chance to be a flooding disaster than wind impacts 

Yup yup, 1955?!  Let's go!

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2 hours ago, CT Rain said:

Need to flex that W ATL ridge even more. 

 

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Two sensitivities… One is what you just said

…the other one is that thing looks like it’s too robustly developing that close to land. maybe one but as of now I’m having trouble finding an analog 

 

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Still involving scenario though
 

I mean, euro doesn’t even bring that thing up the coast.  The longer range hemisphere looks like it wants to try and flip sort of a negative PNAP. 
Euro was trying to initiate that transition before it can even come north and that traps it down there underneath the evolving WAR

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1 hour ago, Torch Tiger said:

'38 vs. Connie/Diane, no question what a real weenie would choose :D  Unless you have some flood obsession/fetish 

One of my dads first memories was of Connie/Diane. He was living in Naugatuck, CT and his house was at the top of a hill so it didn't get flooded. He said that there were helicopters airlifting people off of their homes and he could see it from up on the hill.

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