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Mid/Late February will be rocking. (This year we mean it!) February long range discussion.


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6 minutes ago, WxUSAF said:

Extrapolated 6z gfs looks awful for the psu storm though. Disappointing :(

Iirc someone noted yesterday how we don't want the PD3 system  unless we are hoping for a 1 and done. Destroys the long term pattern or something. All eggs in one basket type thing.  Suppose if it's the 6z gfs solution tho, most would make that sacrifice.

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Found a good use for snow maps lol. Good visual here of last 7 gfs runs for vday period. Scattershot/unresolved at first but last 4 runs show a clear trend and it's caused by upper air patten trying to find any way to press down into this wave. Yea, temps are disastrous I get that but we're in a state of massive flux in the high latitudes. There is still a real opportunity. Until that vanishes it's hard for me to look beyond. This isn't a setup you can just dismiss yet imo only 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said:

Iirc someone noted yesterday how we don't want the PD3 system  unless we are hoping for a 1 and done. Destroys the long term pattern or something. All eggs in one basket type thing.  Suppose if it's the 6z gfs solution tho, most would make that sacrifice.

meh there's no real way to know at all of it's one and done. blocking likely resurfaces from Scandinavia given the SPV weakening and the Aleutian low will retrograde. bird in the hand is worth two in the bush anyway

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2 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said:

meh there's no real way to know at all of it's one and done. blocking likely resurfaces from Scandinavia given the SPV weakening and the Aleutian low will retrograde. bird in the hand is worth two in the bush anyway

There's putting a cart before the horse and then there's Ralph. Worrying about a storm destroying future storm chances in a disastrous winter does not compute anywhere in my head. Might need a crtl/alt/delete or something 

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5 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said:

meh there's no real way to know at all of it's one and done. blocking likely resurfaces from Scandinavia given the SPV weakening and the Aleutian low will retrograde. bird in the hand is worth two in the bush anyway

I see it....the NS phase the gfs is doing is good here. It was @psuhoffman that noted we wanted to see that and not the gfs way it had the PD3 systems prior 3 runs (amplifying the ns to our n and flattening the flow). 

This and and the euro can work and retain the pattern moving forward. 

Perfect!

Awesome to see the ops sensing the HL blocking now and reflecting at the surface.

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4 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said:

meh there's no real way to know at all of it's one and done. blocking likely resurfaces from Scandinavia given the SPV weakening and the Aleutian low will retrograde. bird in the hand is worth two in the bush anyway

It’s part of the weenie handbook. Sacrifice storm X to get storm Y. 

Not worth entertaining another thought, though…

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Analogs capturing the blocking aren't really showing much for us here in the big dept. Blizzard of 78 time period showing up but that was a dream crusher event here. But just bad breaks. Track was great it just didn't rip in time. Other than that, everything remains mixy/messy/pasty. Feb 05 and 07 storms have been showing at times.  No classics though. Been that way all year for most of the east nearly all the time. 

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46 minutes ago, Bob Chill said:

There's putting a cart before the horse and then there's Ralph. Worrying about a storm destroying future storm chances in a disastrous winter does not compute anywhere in my head. Might need a crtl/alt/delete or something 

If I could lock in the 6z gfs and call it a winter after PD3 I'm in.

A SECS then a high end MECS.  All within a weeks time. 

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3 minutes ago, Chris78 said:

If I could lock in the 6z gfs and call it a winter after PD3 I'm in.

A SECS then a high end MECS.  All within a weeks time. 

This just my gut talking and it's too far away to think much about, but I keep thinking the first 10 days of March will be the ripest period for the MA. Maybe active instead of big dog stuff. We'll see how it goes. March wavelengths are volatile. We generally don't go into March with a mid winter storm pattern. Good blocking years have shot their load by March. I can't think of many (or any) Marches with a mean pattern that's showing on weekly/monthly guidance. I'm curious

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1 hour ago, Ralph Wiggum said:

Iirc someone noted yesterday how we don't want the PD3 system  unless we are hoping for a 1 and done. Destroys the long term pattern or something. All eggs in one basket type thing.  Suppose if it's the 6z gfs solution tho, most would make that sacrifice.

Don't look a gift horse.

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