RU848789 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 32 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: 4:1 to 6:1 when you went inland it was more like 8:1 Newark was 8.4:1 and even at my house in Metuchen it was 8.3:1. I'm guessing everywhere NW of the TPK from Trenton to Newark also had ratios of at least 8:1. East of the TPK in NENJ/NYC it was often lower, possibly due to lower intensity, possibly the UHI. And I assume it was at least 10:1 N of 78/W of 287 in NJ and N of 287 in NY. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveWinter Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 minutes ago, RU848789 said: Newark was 8.4:1 and even at my house in Metuchen it was 8.3:1. I'm guessing everywhere NW of the TPK from Trenton to Newark also had ratios of at least 8:1. East of the TPK in NENJ/NYC it was often lower, possibly due to lower intensity, possibly the UHI. And I assume it was at least 10:1 N of 78/W of 287 in NJ and N of 287 in NY. Initially due to UHI, then due to rates. Only had the good stuff for around 90 mins in Manhattan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 11 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: But if we end up getting 2 snow events out of it (yesterday and saturday morning), at least we'll be able to say that the mid to late February pattern produced decently. Anyway 12z Euro gets light snow up here. About an inch, with more for southern NJ. Hopefully the RGEM is right and we'll see some north trends with the other models. Would be nice to get 2 or 3 inches. The funny thing is our two biggest storms - 1/6 and yesterday, both occurred before the pattern was supposed to become more favorable 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 4 hours ago, SACRUS said: I dont think the 1940 storm was significant for our area. 2/14/1940 Central Park - 9.0" Farmingdale - 11.0" Babylon - 9.5" Setauket - 7.5" Bridgehampton - 5.2" Riverhead - 5.5" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Getting the feeling we are just about done with snowfall around the area after Saturday 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, Allsnow said: Getting the feeling we are just about done with snowfall around the area after Saturday yep-fast flow might be our final nail. if it comes down to that it will be 2 brief intervals of cold/snow chances in an incredibly warm winter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegan_edible Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 8 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Getting the feeling we are just about done with snowfall around the area after Saturday honestly, if we get a little snowfall this weekend i'll take that run. im about done with snow for this season. i enjoy it more in december and january. once feb rolls around i start itching for some warmer weather. yesterdays event was really nice to see, and kind of brought a sort of closure to me for this winter. anything else is the cherry on top 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 11 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Getting the feeling we are just about done with snowfall around the area after Saturday Prime snow season ends around here the middle of next week. After that sun angle becomes a growing problem for anything that falls during the day. Heck, it was even somewhat of an issue yesterday in the immediate costal plain and the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 5 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: Prime snow season ends around here the middle of next week. After that sun angle becomes a growing problem for anything that falls during the day. Heck, it was even somewhat of an issue yesterday in the immediate costal plain and the city. Sun angle isn't an issue until March 15th or so down on LI. If the rates are good with cold temps snow accumulates on the roads during the day before then. After March 15th it becomes much harder to snow cover roads during the daytime. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 21 minutes ago, vegan_edible said: honestly, if we get a little snowfall this weekend i'll take that run. im about done with snow for this season. i enjoy it more in december and january. once feb rolls around i start itching for some warmer weather. yesterdays event was really nice to see, and kind of brought a sort of closure to me for this winter. anything else is the cherry on top This'll probably be a one hit wonder season like 94-95 with the smaller events like maybe Sat thrown in. Not the absolute basement of lousy but next step up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 39 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Getting the feeling we are just about done with snowfall around the area after Saturday I agree. Enjoy whatever we get for Saturday, which my guess is probably a plowable event (maybe something like 3-5 inches?). The final few days of this month and early March looks ugly 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Our main issue for lack of March snowfall after the 2013 to 2019 epic run is how warm the month has become. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 40 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Getting the feeling we are just about done with snowfall around the area after Saturday Mid March surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 45 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Getting the feeling we are just about done with snowfall around the area after Saturday No we aren't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 5 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: Mid March surprise Last week of February Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Sref north for this weekend 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 6 minutes ago, snowman19 said: I agree. Enjoy whatever we get for Saturday, which my guess is probably a plowable event (maybe something like 3-5 inches?). The final few days of this month and early March looks ugly It feels odd to read posts from you that are pro snow haha. Either way, I hope you’re correct about the 3-5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveWinter Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 13 minutes ago, snowman19 said: I agree. Enjoy whatever we get for Saturday, which my guess is probably a plowable event (maybe something like 3-5 inches?). The final few days of this month and early March looks ugly Would be funny if the Park ends up with more from this one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 NAM coming in well north, this is gonna be a nice run. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 6 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: NAM coming in well north, this is gonna be a nice run. @snowman19 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3k coming north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 NAMed? Kind of... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 minutes ago, Allsnow said: @snowman19 Good to see NAM looking like RGEM now. I think 3 to 5 might be pushing it, but 2 to 4 seems like a good possibility to me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Wow very nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 hours ago, forkyfork said: maybe the huge area of near 90 degree water in the west pac will magically cool down despite co2 emissions not dropping 1 hour ago, ORH_wxman said: 2015: “the west coast pacific warm blob isn’t going to magically cool” 2024: “the tropical pacific warm blob isn’t going to magically cool” Sorry Forky just for fun. Good discussion though in the NE thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 48 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: MJO is the latest fad to explain a small sample size of outcomes IMHO. We’ve seen it for decades now. - Late 1990s literature blamed the big reversal of NAO/AO to predominately positive phases on CC -early 2010s literature blamed the big flip back to -AO/NAO on CC via melting sea ice - mid-2010s literature blamed the western drought and cold eastern winters in the pacific warm blob due to CC I remember being called a climate denier for being skeptical of the sea ice theory circa 2012 or so. It’s hard to have rational discussions about these attribution studies with people who don’t really care about rigor. MJO is popular right now because “it makes sense” in explaining a small sample of shit winters in the east. To your point, maybe the MJO stuff is true in a vacuum but people are over-attributing the MJO to our own weather. What is going to be the next explanation when we get a couple of cold-loses winters in a row? IMO ORH_wxman and Forky two of the best posters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 4 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said: IMO ORH_wxman and Forky two of the best posters. @bluewave needs to set the Sne forum straight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 16 minutes ago, RU848789 said: NAMed? Kind of... and this doesn't fully take into account 12 - 15:1 ratio's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUWX23 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, NEG NAO said: and this doesn't fully take into account 12 - 15:1 ratio's Be careful with just expecting high ratio snow. Yes it's colder aloft but surface temps are still not as cold as I feel needed for higher ratio. Id temper it a bit and say more 10-12:1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Just now, SBUWX23 said: Be careful with just expecting high ratio snow. Yes it's colder aloft but surface temps are still not as cold as I feel needed for higher ratio. Id temper it a bit and say more 10-12:1 really ? how cold do the surface temps need to be for higher ratio's ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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