Sunday 1/28-midday Monday 29/2024 snowfall and OBS most of the NYC subforum including potential 1/2-2" NYC-LI-heavier toward I84.

[Stormlover74]

  On 1/28/2024 at 1:01 PM, MJO812 said:

Mesos were too warm with snow close to the coast. This is mostly rain with some wet snow up to SNE.

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This was always rain with a flip to snow late tonight or tomorrow morning at best

[MJO812]

  On 1/28/2024 at 1:18 PM, the_other_guy said:

It’s hard to ignore that this is a storm with good track on 1/28and it’s just raining.

 

This is what many guys predicted would happen in the 2010s.

 

I just think climate is too warm and we turned the corner here now. At least in the New York City area. Going forward snow will be more of a rarity if true

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Agree

First NYC and then it goes north. Soon snow will be a thing of the past for many areas.

[Tatamy]

  On 1/28/2024 at 1:01 PM, MJO812 said:

Mesos were too warm with snow close to the coast. This is mostly rain with some wet snow up to SNE.

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Warm nose at 850mb and unfavorable boundary layer were too much to overcome.  

[LibertyBell]

  On 1/28/2024 at 11:46 AM, wdrag said:

Unsure...follow NWS map attached. Should be snowing Mt Pocono now. 32F.  NWS WPC broad area probs for 1 and 4 attached. Go to PHI home page and  then theirwinter wx page and that will give you probs of various amounts.  

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thanks looks like 4" is the absolute high end there

[IrishRob17]

Snow/rain mix, mostly snow at the moment, temp has been steadily dropping this morning, down to 35/33 now 

[LibertyBell]

  On 1/28/2024 at 1:23 PM, Tatamy said:

Warm nose at 850mb and unfavorable boundary layer were too much to overcome.  

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what's causing this constant warm nose at 850 mb  with storms this year even with a good track?

 

[Tatamy]

  On 1/28/2024 at 1:33 PM, LibertyBell said:

what's causing this constant warm nose at 850 mb  with storms this year even with a good track?

 

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Lack of Arctic stream involvement.

[wishcast_hater]

Crazy Radar Signatures. I think the Weather Channel Radar is way off from the observations I have seen.


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[LibertyBell]

  On 1/28/2024 at 1:39 PM, wishcast_hater said:

Crazy Radar Signatures. I think the Weather Channel Radar is way off from the observations I have seen.


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it does show the dreaded Hudson valley stripe of rainfall at lower elevations near the river

[CPcantmeasuresnow]

34.2 mixed rain and snow. 

[Picard]

The entire color spectrum is represented in the current radar.
Temp here is 35.6, with a cold, moderate rain.  Elevation 800'

[wishcast_hater]

Flipped to snow here. Big fat flakes, ground whitening. Very surprised at this. I figure I wouldn’t have see snow until about 4 pm


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[psv88]

Another beautiful day here in Seattle 

[psv88]

  On 1/28/2024 at 1:51 PM, wishcast_hater said:

Flipped to snow here. Big fat flakes, ground whitening. Very surprised at this. I figure I wouldn’t have see snow until about 4 pm


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Why? Your area was and is forecast to have snow at this time. Shouldn’t be a surprise 

[wishcast_hater]

I figured the forecast would bust, especially when I looked outside and saw heavy rain at 36° and my elevation is only 740’. NWS discussion also didn’t sound too optimistic either.


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[JustinRP37]

Snowy rain here in Patterson but coming down heavy enough that we are seeing it whiten the cold areas of the ground. Was not expecting snow this early. 

[EastonSN+]

  On 1/28/2024 at 1:18 PM, the_other_guy said:

It’s hard to ignore that this is a storm with good track on 1/28and it’s just raining.

 

This is what many guys predicted would happen in the 2010s.

 

I just think climate is too warm and we turned the corner here now. At least in the New York City area. Going forward snow will be more of a rarity if true

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This happened all year long in 97/98. Repetitive perfect benchmark storm tracks and nothing but heavy rain. 

People who were not old enough in 97/98 are getting the full experience now.

Also, although it may be happening more often, we had perfect storm tracks with rain in the 70s, 80s and 90s outside of 97/98 as well.

Perhaps I am not as worried since I lived through this before, however I am confident we will get into another 1955 - 1969, 2000 - 2018 period again. Problem is, the lull periods tend to be much longer than the snowy periods. I just hope it's not 30 years like 1970 through 1999 lol.

[CPcantmeasuresnow]

33.8 mixed snow and rain continues. 600 msl. Highland mills eastern Orange County. 

[IrishRob17]

I encourage folks to refer to and report to mPING, especially events like this one. Down to 33.8/32 with light snow and a very slushy coating, elevation 385’ here. 

[snywx]

  On 1/28/2024 at 1:33 PM, IrishRob17 said:

Snow/rain mix, mostly snow at the moment, temp has been steadily dropping this morning, down to 35/33 now 

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I’m down in the tropics aka Manhattan right now but the word is it’s all snow and 0.5” on the ground imby

[IrishRob17]

  On 1/28/2024 at 2:29 PM, snywx said:

I’m down in the tropics aka Manhattan right now but the word is it’s all snow and 0.5” on the ground imby

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Looks like .2 or so on the board here but now the radar has the dry slot moving in. We never expected much around here but it's something. 

[HeadInTheClouds]

34 with moderate/heavy snow, starting to stick to colder surfaces. 

[sussexcountyobs]

Precip has lightened up and snow has changed back to light rain here at 1200'

34.0°

[CPcantmeasuresnow]

Lighter precip back up to 34.2 with just light rain. This thing sucks but didn't expect anything anyway, have to admit was hoping for a miracle in the back of my mind.  

[wishcast_hater]

Pouring snow here. Roads and grass covered. Of course now that’s is snowing the dry slot is coming to screw it all up.


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[LoboLeader1]

31F all snow here in the Berks. Had a mix of snow & ZR earlier.

[MANDA]

Another drenching 1"+ rainfall here.  Did go to a period of wet snow between 8 and 9 am that caused the deck to get a LIGHT coating of slush and slightly whitened the pines in the yard.  All gone now as it went back to rain once precip intensity decreased.  Temperature 33.5 to 34.5 since about 5am.

[wishcast_hater]

Heavy snow gone and……..back to rain. I’m sure with the dry slot and lighter precip my accumulation will be gone in a couple of hours.

And that’s why in my earlier post I was surprised to see snow. False hope.
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[HeadInTheClouds]

34 with light rain/snow mix now. 

[Allsnow]

Miserable weather