ORH_wxman Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 23 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: The snow/sleet on Sunday wasn't "feathers" and yesterday in the front yard it was melting... It was melting not because of ground temps but because it was like 33F outside when that crap was falling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: It was melting not because of ground temps but because it was like 33F outside when that crap was falling. Agree! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, NorEastermass128 said: It’s been cloudy for 2 weeks…with a few minutes of sun here and there. Losing it. ...never lose it over the weather... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazey Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 If you happen to be lucky enough to have pack, it makes going through these lulls a lot easier. Nothing worse than boring weather and snowless landscape. Mid Feb will be here soon enough and hopefully another favorable period. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: It was melting not because of ground temps but because it was like 33F outside when that crap was falling. the snow and sleet was falling onto relatively warm and wet ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, Great Snow 1717 said: ...never lose it over the weather... Losing my sanity for not seeing the sun for two weeks is not my choice. It just happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Yeah we know winter is usually dark and dreary, and that's one of the reasons for ++'s the past few months. Hopefully we soon see a few sunny days thrown in, and since it won't melt away those with snow pack, this cannot be construed as trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, NorEastermass128 said: Losing my sanity for not seeing the sun for two weeks is not my choice. It just happens. Focus on positive things in your life...regardless of the weather there is plenty of enjoyable activities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Maybe a clipper will pop up 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, Great Snow 1717 said: Focus on positive things in your life...regardless of the weather there is plenty of enjoyable activities Thanks. I will. Will you be charging my Blue Cross or bill me directly? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, NorEastermass128 said: Thanks. I will. Will you be charging my Blue Cross or bill me directly? Nah, it's on the house this time, next time bring all of your credit cards... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: the snow and sleet was falling onto relatively warm and wet ground... Sure wet ground from 33-35F rain that preceded it. But if that didn’t fall first, the ground wasn’t prohibitively warm. That’s the point everyone else is making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just now, ORH_wxman said: Sure wet ground from 33-35F rain that preceded it. But if that didn’t fall first, the ground wasn’t prohibitively warm. That’s the point everyone else is making. there isn't any frost in the ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstronomyEnjoyer Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, Prismshine Productions said: Trend a few degrees cooler and that would be a massive strike Sent from my SM-S146VL using Tapatalk What are you talking about? That's already a massive strike at my place. And only 372 hours out? And on Feb 14th, Valentine's day? The only pink and red decorations I need are the pink and reds that this bad boy is generating on the clown maps, cause there's no way this is gonna break my heart. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, Hazey said: If you happen to be lucky enough to have pack, it makes going through these lulls a lot easier. Nothing worse than boring weather and snowless landscape. Mid Feb will be here soon enough and hopefully another favorable period. Yeah one thing that has been nice is I’ve had ground covered for most of the month since 1/7. We lost it after the second cutter but only for a few days prior to the 1/15 event. Then we lost it again last week but only had to wait about 3 days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Sure wet ground from 33-35F rain that preceded it. But if that didn’t fall first, the ground wasn’t prohibitively warm. That’s the point everyone else is making. No point in trying to explain meteorology 151 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Just a skim coating from the OES here. The coast isn’t the spot for retention though. Pack city is just inland. In fact, the coast really isn’t the spot for falling snow either. But just away from the coast… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 minute ago, Great Snow 1717 said: there isn't any frost in the ground... Doesn’t matter in this context since 2 inch soil temps are around freezing across most of MA (a bit below in higher terrain). You’re not gonna melt really anything bottom-up with that. If it was still in the high 30s to low 40s then you would. Pretty much all melting once past very early winter is going to come from top-down…once ground is exposed nearby then you’ll get lateral assist…esp as sun angle increases and heats the exposed sfc nearby. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Great Snow 1717 said: My front yard faces south and that is what happens unless it is very cold....meaning the snow begins to melt the next day after a snowstorm if it is sunny with normal temp.. Hate to tell you this, but that will happen January 10th if you have all sun... even if it's 10 degrees. Just doesn't happen quite as fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 8 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Yeah one thing that has been nice is I’ve had ground covered for most of the month since 1/7. We lost it after the second cutter but only for a few days prior to the 1/15 event. Then we lost it again last week but only had to wait about 3 days. Same here. It hasn't been a lot, but there's been enough white ground to satisfy in this area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I will admit, the lack of sun has been kind of brutal. I think we have had one sunny day in the past 10. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I prefer cloudy days in winter. Nothing worse than sun slowly melting snow 4 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Great Snow 1717 said: The ground is so warm for this time of year that the snow melts from below and above.. Where are you located? Plenty of frost in this area! I have an open electrical trench on a job site because everything is frozen solid. Maybe I should let some of you know where it is... save you money on toasters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, UnitedWx said: Where are you located? Plenty of frost in this area! I have an open electrical trench on a job site because everything is frozen solid. Maybe I should let some of you know where it is... save you money on toasters Methuen.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstronomyEnjoyer Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 4 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: I will admit, the lack of sun has been kind of brutal. I think we have had one sunny day in the past 10. I agree - on one hand it's nice for snow retention (where I measure my snowpack is on a south facing yard) but on the other it's just dreary and miserable and when your main hobby is astronomy, clouds are a no go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleetussnow Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 14 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Doesn’t matter in this context since 2 inch soil temps are around freezing across most of MA (a bit below in higher terrain). You’re not gonna melt really anything bottom-up with that. If it was still in the high 30s to low 40s then you would. Pretty much all melting once past very early winter is going to come from top-down…once ground is exposed nearby then you’ll get lateral assist…esp as sun angle increases and heats the exposed sfc nearby. There it is. First legit sun angle mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 20 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: I will admit, the lack of sun has been kind of brutal. I think we have had one sunny day in the past 10. 6z gfs had a string of pounding sun days, Feb 4th -8th? roughly. Poundtown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 33 minutes ago, Great Snow 1717 said: Focus on positive things in your life...regardless of the weather there is plenty of enjoyable activities 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8611Blizz Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanks45 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 50 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Sure wet ground from 33-35F rain that preceded it. But if that didn’t fall first, the ground wasn’t prohibitively warm. That’s the point everyone else is making. I was actually impressed with how our ground was turning white with a rain/snow mix....just below the surface was still frozen from all the cold we had prior to all of our recent rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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