ORH_wxman Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 2:44 PM, Great Snow 1717 said: The snow/sleet on Sunday wasn't "feathers" and yesterday in the front yard it was melting... Expand It was melting not because of ground temps but because it was like 33F outside when that crap was falling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:08 PM, ORH_wxman said: It was melting not because of ground temps but because it was like 33F outside when that crap was falling. Expand Agree! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:06 PM, NorEastermass128 said: It’s been cloudy for 2 weeks…with a few minutes of sun here and there. Losing it. Expand ...never lose it over the weather... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazey Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 If you happen to be lucky enough to have pack, it makes going through these lulls a lot easier. Nothing worse than boring weather and snowless landscape. Mid Feb will be here soon enough and hopefully another favorable period. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:08 PM, ORH_wxman said: It was melting not because of ground temps but because it was like 33F outside when that crap was falling. Expand the snow and sleet was falling onto relatively warm and wet ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:12 PM, Great Snow 1717 said: ...never lose it over the weather... Expand Losing my sanity for not seeing the sun for two weeks is not my choice. It just happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 Yeah we know winter is usually dark and dreary, and that's one of the reasons for ++'s the past few months. Hopefully we soon see a few sunny days thrown in, and since it won't melt away those with snow pack, this cannot be construed as trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:13 PM, NorEastermass128 said: Losing my sanity for not seeing the sun for two weeks is not my choice. It just happens. Expand Focus on positive things in your life...regardless of the weather there is plenty of enjoyable activities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 Maybe a clipper will pop up 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:15 PM, Great Snow 1717 said: Focus on positive things in your life...regardless of the weather there is plenty of enjoyable activities Expand Thanks. I will. Will you be charging my Blue Cross or bill me directly? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:16 PM, NorEastermass128 said: Thanks. I will. Will you be charging my Blue Cross or bill me directly? Expand Nah, it's on the house this time, next time bring all of your credit cards... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:13 PM, Great Snow 1717 said: the snow and sleet was falling onto relatively warm and wet ground... Expand Sure wet ground from 33-35F rain that preceded it. But if that didn’t fall first, the ground wasn’t prohibitively warm. That’s the point everyone else is making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:17 PM, ORH_wxman said: Sure wet ground from 33-35F rain that preceded it. But if that didn’t fall first, the ground wasn’t prohibitively warm. That’s the point everyone else is making. Expand there isn't any frost in the ground... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstronomyEnjoyer Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 12:18 PM, Prismshine Productions said: Trend a few degrees cooler and that would be a massive strike Sent from my SM-S146VL using Tapatalk Expand What are you talking about? That's already a massive strike at my place. And only 372 hours out? And on Feb 14th, Valentine's day? The only pink and red decorations I need are the pink and reds that this bad boy is generating on the clown maps, cause there's no way this is gonna break my heart. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:12 PM, Hazey said: If you happen to be lucky enough to have pack, it makes going through these lulls a lot easier. Nothing worse than boring weather and snowless landscape. Mid Feb will be here soon enough and hopefully another favorable period. Expand Yeah one thing that has been nice is I’ve had ground covered for most of the month since 1/7. We lost it after the second cutter but only for a few days prior to the 1/15 event. Then we lost it again last week but only had to wait about 3 days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:17 PM, ORH_wxman said: Sure wet ground from 33-35F rain that preceded it. But if that didn’t fall first, the ground wasn’t prohibitively warm. That’s the point everyone else is making. Expand No point in trying to explain meteorology 151 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 Just a skim coating from the OES here. The coast isn’t the spot for retention though. Pack city is just inland. In fact, the coast really isn’t the spot for falling snow either. But just away from the coast… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:18 PM, Great Snow 1717 said: there isn't any frost in the ground... Expand Doesn’t matter in this context since 2 inch soil temps are around freezing across most of MA (a bit below in higher terrain). You’re not gonna melt really anything bottom-up with that. If it was still in the high 30s to low 40s then you would. Pretty much all melting once past very early winter is going to come from top-down…once ground is exposed nearby then you’ll get lateral assist…esp as sun angle increases and heats the exposed sfc nearby. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 1:54 PM, Great Snow 1717 said: My front yard faces south and that is what happens unless it is very cold....meaning the snow begins to melt the next day after a snowstorm if it is sunny with normal temp.. Expand Hate to tell you this, but that will happen January 10th if you have all sun... even if it's 10 degrees. Just doesn't happen quite as fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:19 PM, ORH_wxman said: Yeah one thing that has been nice is I’ve had ground covered for most of the month since 1/7. We lost it after the second cutter but only for a few days prior to the 1/15 event. Then we lost it again last week but only had to wait about 3 days. Expand Same here. It hasn't been a lot, but there's been enough white ground to satisfy in this area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 I will admit, the lack of sun has been kind of brutal. I think we have had one sunny day in the past 10. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 I prefer cloudy days in winter. Nothing worse than sun slowly melting snow 4 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWx Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 2:17 PM, Great Snow 1717 said: The ground is so warm for this time of year that the snow melts from below and above.. Expand Where are you located? Plenty of frost in this area! I have an open electrical trench on a job site because everything is frozen solid. Maybe I should let some of you know where it is... save you money on toasters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:32 PM, UnitedWx said: Where are you located? Plenty of frost in this area! I have an open electrical trench on a job site because everything is frozen solid. Maybe I should let some of you know where it is... save you money on toasters Expand Methuen.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstronomyEnjoyer Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:30 PM, HIPPYVALLEY said: I will admit, the lack of sun has been kind of brutal. I think we have had one sunny day in the past 10. Expand I agree - on one hand it's nice for snow retention (where I measure my snowpack is on a south facing yard) but on the other it's just dreary and miserable and when your main hobby is astronomy, clouds are a no go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleetussnow Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:26 PM, ORH_wxman said: Doesn’t matter in this context since 2 inch soil temps are around freezing across most of MA (a bit below in higher terrain). You’re not gonna melt really anything bottom-up with that. If it was still in the high 30s to low 40s then you would. Pretty much all melting once past very early winter is going to come from top-down…once ground is exposed nearby then you’ll get lateral assist…esp as sun angle increases and heats the exposed sfc nearby. Expand There it is. First legit sun angle mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torch Tiger Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:30 PM, HIPPYVALLEY said: I will admit, the lack of sun has been kind of brutal. I think we have had one sunny day in the past 10. Expand 6z gfs had a string of pounding sun days, Feb 4th -8th? roughly. Poundtown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:15 PM, Great Snow 1717 said: Focus on positive things in your life...regardless of the weather there is plenty of enjoyable activities Expand 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spanks45 Posted January 30, 2024 Share Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/30/2024 at 3:17 PM, ORH_wxman said: Sure wet ground from 33-35F rain that preceded it. But if that didn’t fall first, the ground wasn’t prohibitively warm. That’s the point everyone else is making. Expand I was actually impressed with how our ground was turning white with a rain/snow mix....just below the surface was still frozen from all the cold we had prior to all of our recent rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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