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Cold Shot: Part Duex - January 18-20th Arctic Blast and Freezing Rain/Snow Event


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17 minutes ago, PowellVolz said:


I don’t see areas with 6-8” of snow on the ground warming 30 degrees or more tomorrow. This system isn’t that strong and it’s not a wrapped up cutter with strong advection.


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My thing is, I think we can easily stay below freezing at the surface, but we still get rain. It will just be freezing rain. A little warm air up high is not impacted by the ground. Maybe best case, there is lower level cold that keeps it sleet or something?

I don't know. Just worried about the impacts of this rain on 9 inches of snow. I would love snow instead!  

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Sorry for the question, but I've not been following like the last system... What's the timeframe we are looking at here? Driving from New Tazewell to Knoxville for work, for the first time this week, tomorrow and want to make sure I can actually make it home. Thanks in advance. 

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Sorry for the question, but I've not been following like the last system... What's the timeframe we are looking at here? Driving from New Tazewell to Knoxville for work, for the first time this week, tomorrow and want to make sure I can actually make it home. Thanks in advance. 
Likely evening. Exact time would be hard to guess, but probably not earlier than 5 PM and probably no later than 8PM for that start time.
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1 minute ago, Utvols235 said:


I’m not sure I understand the measurement for Chattanooga here. Pardon my ignorance.


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From what I can see, it's the only model with that extensive area of icing. The 0Z high res. Fv 3 has predominately snow in SEKY/SWVA. The 0Z 3k Nam as well. Fwiw, it may be right but, I've found the Hrrr has a bit of a warm bias in upper east TN and SWVA. 

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From what I can see, it's the only model with that extensive area of icing. The 0Z high res. Fv 3 has predominately snow in SEKY/SWVA. The 0Z 3k Nam as well. Fwiw, it may be right but, I've found the Hrrr has a bit of a warm bias in upper east TN and SWVA. 

Thanks. I will say we came close to our predicted high today but not quite. Stayed below freezing all day. Whatever snow we did have must have made an impact on that. Wonder if that plays an issue tomorrow. Granted I have no idea what I’m talking about


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4 minutes ago, Utvols235 said:


Thanks. I will say we came close to our predicted high today but not quite. Stayed below freezing all day. Whatever snow we did have must have made an impact on that. Wonder if that plays an issue tomorrow. Granted I have no idea what I’m talking about


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All Models were too high on forecasted lows and highs in snow covered areas. Snow cover will play a part. 

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My thing is, I think we can easily stay below freezing at the surface, but we still get rain. It will just be freezing rain. A little warm air up high is not impacted by the ground. Maybe best case, there is lower level cold that keeps it sleet or something?
I don't know. Just worried about the impacts of this rain on 9 inches of snow. I would love snow instead!  

I completely agree with you. I guess I should have expressed my concern is that this could be much worse than 8” of snow. It’s been so cold that the ambient temperature may need to get above 35 for the rain to not freeze on contact


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Likely evening. Exact time would be hard to guess, but probably not earlier than 5 PM and probably no later than 8PM for that start time.

I agree with this going by the mods but sometimes these clippers move faster than modeled.


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So much for me loving this weather. Last two nights I’ve been at a Knoxville HS keeping the boilers on. I can’t let the domestic water freeze and bust but high natural gas demand is sending my units into flame failure. I’m one of a couple guys who work on this equipment so I have to be here but I’ve got a 9 year old and wife at home who’s recovering from a double mastectomy surgery because of breast cancer. Trying to get to some of these schools is not easy.


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So much for me loving this weather. Last two nights I’ve been at a Knoxville HS keeping the boilers on. I can’t let the domestic water freeze and bust but high natural gas demand is sending my units into flame failure. I’m one of a couple guys who work on this equipment so I have to be here but I’ve got a 9 year old and wife at home who’s recovering from a double mastectomy surgery because of breast cancer. Trying to get to some of these schools is not easy.


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That sucks man, to have so much going on at once is difficult.
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I've just blew through my predicted low. My zone forecast says 15, my point forecast says 13. It's down to 9 degrees already. 
I haven't busted my low, but I'm at it now. My point forecast low is 12 that is what I'm at now. I imagine I'll be much lower by daybreak.
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I've just blew through my predicted low. My zone forecast says 15, my point forecast says 13. It's down to 9 degrees already. 

I’m at 8 degrees right now. I’m afraid we got issues tomorrow unless WAA kicks in.


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30 minutes ago, Mrwolf1972 said:

Forecast low was 13 I'm sitting at 1 in loudon they have also added us to the winter weather advisory.8f8f2c34feb9fce78b612496aa4175aa.jpg

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Yea, I dropped to 3 now back up to 6; seems like all the NWS and local Mets know is reading models. I think my low was supposed to be 15

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HRRR looks icy and MRX agrees(light icing to clarify):

Isentropic lift ahead of a surface low to our west will result in
increasing clouds and light precipitation this evening into the
overnight hours. Confidence is increasing in freezing rain and
light ice accumulation across the region, especially for the
valley around 0z and later this evening. Model guidance continues
to show a warm nose in the 2 to 4C range around 800-850mb which
should melt any snow to freezing rain. Amounts appear light, but
most areas should expect around 0.1 inch or less with localized
spots up to 0.2 inch of ice accretion. We have trended towards the
HRRR and colder guidance for temperatures with this system which
seem to better account for the dense, cold air across the valley.
This is a case where pattern recognition is important to
consider. Models routinely overestimate the surface warm air in
these situations and move the cold air across the valley out too
quickly. With this dense, arctic airmass and snowpack, shallow
cold air will be very slow to exit the valley, especially
sheltered valleys across the area. This light freezing rain will
likely create hazardous travel conditions overnight and into
Friday morning. We have expanded the Winter Weather Advisory based
on the slightly cooler forecast and additional areal coverage of
light ice accretion.

Colder air will advect into the region behind the cold front on
Friday with some light snow possible across the area. Most
locations will only see flurries or a dusting, but a few inches of
snow will be possible across the higher elevations of the
mountains where northwest flow and low-level moisture persists.
This light snow continues through the day on Friday and tapers
off to flurries and rime ice on Friday night.

 

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1 hour ago, Carvers Gap said:

HRRR looks icy and MRX agrees(light icing to clarify):

Isentropic lift ahead of a surface low to our west will result in
increasing clouds and light precipitation this evening into the
overnight hours. Confidence is increasing in freezing rain and
light ice accumulation across the region, especially for the
valley around 0z and later this evening. Model guidance continues
to show a warm nose in the 2 to 4C range around 800-850mb which
should melt any snow to freezing rain. Amounts appear light, but
most areas should expect around 0.1 inch or less with localized
spots up to 0.2 inch of ice accretion. We have trended towards the
HRRR and colder guidance for temperatures with this system which
seem to better account for the dense, cold air across the valley.
This is a case where pattern recognition is important to
consider. Models routinely overestimate the surface warm air in
these situations and move the cold air across the valley out too
quickly. With this dense, arctic airmass and snowpack, shallow
cold air will be very slow to exit the valley, especially
sheltered valleys across the area. This light freezing rain will
likely create hazardous travel conditions overnight and into
Friday morning. We have expanded the Winter Weather Advisory based
on the slightly cooler forecast and additional areal coverage of
light ice accretion.

Colder air will advect into the region behind the cold front on
Friday with some light snow possible across the area. Most
locations will only see flurries or a dusting, but a few inches of
snow will be possible across the higher elevations of the
mountains where northwest flow and low-level moisture persists.
This light snow continues through the day on Friday and tapers
off to flurries and rime ice on Friday night.

 

My fears look like they are coming to fruition. Ice, ice baby. 

 

Oddly enough, the RGEM is actually trending the snow line into the central valley with limited ice the past couple of runs. Curious to see if the 12z holds. I want that solution to be correct! lol 

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