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XMAS Miracle: Blizzard of 2010 Lead-in Dialogue


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Just ran MAV snow number. Other than the outer cape and ACK, some nice totals. HYA: 4+, EWB,PYM,TAN,BOS,BVY,BED,ORH,everything else in MA, 8+, NYC 8+, BWI 8+, PHL 8+, PWM 8+, AUG 6+. BOS,BVY,PWM etc have some additional beyond the first number. It's coming!

Jerry--what are the mav numbers at ALY and AQW?

Edit: EEN?

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I disagree cordially. Take a look at the band it had down in EVA on the old run, it's 150 miles NE this run. That's how much faster/more progressive this run is.

if it's moving to consensus fine, but the NAM was somewhat faster too. Just something to watch.

cweat... Have you followed the RUC on this storm so far, if so, how has it been performing? I just want to know if we could possibly use it for this storm forecast or has it just been utter garbage so far?

Thanks

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Does anyone have a listing or map of the stations? I know BOS,ORH,PVD and all the main one but some I'm not sure of and would be nice to look and see where everyone is talking about geographically.

Here's something you can use, just scroll over the white dots

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/bufkit/CONUS_NAM_12.html

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Does anyone have a listing or map of the stations? I know BOS,ORH,PVD and all the main one but some I'm not sure of and would be nice to look and see where everyone is talking about geographically.

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/zoa/mwmap3.php?map=usa

Click out in the Atlantic just east of Boston and it will zoom in on our area. Then mouse over each station and it will give you the id and obs.

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moneypitmike not an assessment. Just showing you the output, noting more...it's 36 hours away. There will be fluctuations but the chances we see another move like that are probably not great at least I hope!

The snow getting far NW is dependent upon the timing, if everything is a little faster that's going to be a tight squeeze but I'm not saying it's going to happen. I'm just pointing out how it might effect the output later or how that change effected the GFS /NAM this run. I hate to be so nitpicky in explaining what I mean but it's easy to misunderstand. Thoughts out loud.

Nothing else to really see or worry about until 3pm, NCEP still nothing sizeable errors bugs me.

BTW, what ncep noted as maybe an error on the NAM IMO would mean it should have been further west/northwest.

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It's interesting that models are really hinting at a qpf bomb from cstl frontogenesis and also perhaps from the occlusion as well. We'll have to watch where some sort of meso subsidence zone happens in between that and deformation banding out west.

Looking more into bufkit soundings for the entire area I could see some spots TOTALLY ending up getting screwed over with the potential for the subsidence zone and also potential for some downslopping. Hopefully that doesn't happen to anyone on here lol

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cweat... Have you followed the RUC on this storm so far, if so, how has it been performing? I just want to know if we could possibly use it for this storm forecast or has it just been utter garbage so far?

Thanks

dont care that much to be honest! If we go six hours without the models jumping around on a 12 hour forecast it'll matter, right now we can assume they're going to change at h6 and h12, there's no point in looking.

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Looking more into bufkit soundings for the entire area I could see some spots TOTALLY ending up getting screwed over with the potential for the subsidence zone and also potential for some downslopping. Hopefully that doesn't happen to anyone on here lol

Do you think that the GFS is somewhat showing that subsidence zone with that "V" that Tip talked about? heavy snow for W MA, Heavy snow for E MA, Screwed in between?

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moneypitmike not an assessment. Just showing you the output, noting more...it's 36 hours away. There will be fluctuations but the chances we see another move like that are probably not great at least I hope!

The snow getting far NW is dependent upon the timing, if everything is a little faster that's going to be a tight squeeze but I'm not saying it's going to happen. I'm just pointing out how it might effect the output later or how that change effected the GFS /NAM this run. I hate to be so nitpicky in explaining what I mean but it's easy to misunderstand. Thoughts out loud.

Nothing else to really see or worry about until 3pm, NCEP still nothing sizeable errors bugs me.

BTW, what ncep noted as maybe an error on the NAM IMO would mean it should have been further west/northwest.

Thanks--bad choice of words on my part. Also, thanks for the explanaiton of NCEP's comments.

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Do you think that the GFS is somewhat showing that subsidence zone with that "V" that Tip talked about? heavy snow for W MA, Heavy snow for E MA, Screwed in between?

You need a tranquilizer this morning. These meso features aren't going to be modeled perfectly yet. Go empty your stocking, pour a glass of egg nog, play with some toys, and try to relax.
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Thanks--bad choice of words on my part. Also, thanks for the explanaiton of NCEP's comments.

New from NCEP:...just have to watch the NE speed on this thing everything else looks great.

THE 12Z GFS HAS A SUBTLE BUT SIGNIFICANT CHANGE FROM THE PREVIOUS

2 RUNS WITH THE SURFACE LOW BEING FARTHER NORTHEAST THAN PREVIOUS

RUNS. BY SUNDAY/18Z WITH A RAPIDLY DEEPENING LOW EAST OF THE

VIRGINIA/MARYLAND COAST...THE 12Z GFS IS ABOUT 40 MILES NORTHEAST

THAN THE PREVIOUS RUN. BY MONDAY/06Z...THE DEEP SURFACE LOW IS

ABOUT 60 MILES NORTH NORTHEAST OF THE 06Z RUN SOUTH OF LONG

ISLAND. AT THE SAME TIME...THE 12Z GFS IS ABOUT 75 MILES WEST OF

THE 12Z NAM POSITION SOUTH OF SOUTHEAST MASSACHUSETTS.

THEREFORE...THE SPREAD BETWEEN THE TWO MODELS HAS DIMINISHED

SOMEWHAT INDICATING MORE OF A CONVERGENCE OF SOLUTIONS THOUGH THE

NAM REMAINS FARTHER EAST.

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