Great Snow 1717 Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 1:06 PM, LibertyBell said: Nothing here on the south shore but the occasional flake and I had to squint really hard to even see those. Expand Hang on!! Help is on its way.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 1:02 PM, Great Snow 1717 said: True, but extreme heat has become more common while extreme cold has become less common. And remember, they tell people what they want to hear, and climate change sells. (Not debating or saying it isn’t happening, this is just Econ 101)People want to hear about rising crime, extreme heat, mega blizzards, unending floods, new diseases, you name it. It’s why we rubberneck.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 12:55 PM, Great Snow 1717 said: There are more weather segments now than ever...many newscasts begin and end with the weather. And there are numerous weather segments during the news program. "Nothing has changed since our last weather update 5 minutes ago But I'll be back in 5 minutes with a new update" Expand Something else I've noticed is that the phrase "snow storm" has been replaced by "winter storm" -- WHY? And why is it still called a "winter storm" if it happens in the fall or spring? This opens up a whole new can of words-- I believe the phrase "winter storm warning" should be replaced with "snow storm warning"-- we already have an "ice storm warning" for freezing rain and sleet is measured as snow, so there is no real reason to use the phrase "winter storm warning" especially when the measuring criteria for that is the amount of snow that falls. I would get rid of the term "winter storm" completely-- we should be precise in our wording, for a snow event it should be "snow storm" not "winter storm." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 Light snow TTN- Monmouth county in good returns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUWX23 Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 1:10 PM, North and West said: And remember, they tell people what they want to hear, and climate change sells. (Not debating or saying it isn’t happening, this is just Econ 101) People want to hear about rising crime, extreme heat, mega blizzards, unending floods, new diseases, you name it. It’s why we rubberneck. . Expand Do we ever see heat anomalies 40 to 50 above normal? We do seem to see those types of cold anomalies in the US in recent years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 1:10 PM, LibertyBell said: Something else I've noticed is that the phrase "snow storm" has been replaced by "winter storm" -- WHY? And why is it still called a "winter storm" if it happens in the fall or spring? This opens up a whole new can of words-- I believe the phrase "winter storm warning" should be replaced with "snow storm warning"-- we already have an "ice storm warning" for freezing rain and sleet is measured as snow, so there is no real reason to use the phrase "winter storm warning" especially when the measuring criteria for that is the amount of snow that falls. I would get rid of the term "winter storm" completely-- we should be precise in our wording, for a snow event it should be "snow storm" not "winter storm." Expand ..and can the WC please stop naming storms??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 1:10 PM, North and West said: And remember, they tell people what they want to hear, and climate change sells. (Not debating or saying it isn’t happening, this is just Econ 101) People want to hear about rising crime, extreme heat, mega blizzards, unending floods, new diseases, you name it. It’s why we rubberneck. . Expand and why the news is so depressing lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 1:13 PM, Great Snow 1717 said: ..and can the WC please stop naming storms??? Expand "Winter storm" Heather is here! no one remembers these names the day after they are named, there's no real purpose to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 can we keep this storm/obs related? alot of banter going on. take the ot talk into the banter/january thread 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatamy Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 1:10 PM, LibertyBell said: Something else I've noticed is that the phrase "snow storm" has been replaced by "winter storm" -- WHY? And why is it still called a "winter storm" if it happens in the fall or spring? This opens up a whole new can of words-- I believe the phrase "winter storm warning" should be replaced with "snow storm warning"-- we already have an "ice storm warning" for freezing rain and sleet is measured as snow, so there is no real reason to use the phrase "winter storm warning" especially when the measuring criteria for that is the amount of snow that falls. I would get rid of the term "winter storm" completely-- we should be precise in our wording, for a snow event it should be "snow storm" not "winter storm." Expand The term “Winter Storm” covers the whole gamut of precip types that one of these events can produce. For that reason alone I think it’s a good term to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 1:14 PM, LibertyBell said: "Winter storm" Heather is here! no one remembers these names the day after they are named, there's no real purpose to them Expand every time I hear the name Heather I think of this movie.. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 1:12 PM, SBUWX23 said: Do we ever see heat anomalies 40 to 50 above normal? We do seem to see those types of cold anomalies in the US in recent years...I’m sure someone smarter than me can confirm that on this hot mess of a forum we enjoy.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeS Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 light snow beginning to fall in Wayne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 1:10 PM, North and West said: And remember, they tell people what they want to hear, and climate change sells. (Not debating or saying it isn’t happening, this is just Econ 101) People want to hear about rising crime, extreme heat, mega blizzards, unending floods, new diseases, you name it. It’s why we rubberneck. . Expand This has been the case for thousands of years. It’s human nature…notice all the floods and plagues and what not in the Bible? Peoples lives generally routine and boring so they are interested in extremes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgame830 Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 Had some random flakes here in Thornwood NY a little while ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexcountyobs Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 First couple flakes started to reach the ground in Clifton, NJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNJSnowman Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 Surprised nobody else has reported this yet, but here in Monroe Township (Southern Middlesex County, near Monmouth border) we've had something approaching moderate snow for the past 30-45 minutes. I 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 1:09 PM, Dark Star said: Clouds thinning here in Linden NJ. Expand After a brief "thinning" some light "Stuff" beginning to fall... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 It might be flurrying. I can't honestly see anything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatamy Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 Steady light snow. Visibility 1 mile. 33/19 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 1:17 PM, Great Snow 1717 said: every time I hear the name Heather I think of this movie.. Expand Shut up, Heather! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 1:15 PM, Tatamy said: The term “Winter Storm” covers the whole gamut of precip types that one of these events can produce. For that reason alone I think it’s a good term to use. Expand But we have already have a term for ice/freezing rain-- "ice storm warning" and sleet is measured as snow and besides that the sole measuring criteria to achieve "winter storm warning" is snowfall, that's why I thought it would be better to have a "snowstorm warning" Maybe a "snowstorm warning" should be a separate criteria from "winter storm warning"-- like we had a "heavy snow warning" in the old days-- 6" is too low of a criteria for the maximum level of warning anyway, we should have a higher one for double digit snowfalls and bring back the "heavy snow warning" If I remember correctly the old criteria for achieving a "heavy snow warning" was 10" of snow in 12 hours and 20" of snow in 24 hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 1:32 PM, Stormlover74 said: It might be flurrying. I can't honestly see anything Expand a few flakes here and there if you squint really hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franklin0529 Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 Snowing moderately in northern Monmouth county. Sticking to roads an sidewalks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesshock Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 After a lot of virga, flurries beginning and skyline becoming obscured in Bed Stuy, Brooklyn. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 1:34 PM, LibertyBell said: But we have already have a term for ice/freezing rain-- "ice storm warning" and sleet is measured as snow and besides that the sole measuring criteria to achieve "winter storm warning" is snowfall, that's why I thought it would be better to have a "snowstorm warning" Maybe a "snowstorm warning" should be a separate criteria from "winter storm warning"-- like we had a "heavy snow warning" in the old days-- 6" is too low of a criteria for the maximum level of warning anyway, we should have a higher one for double digit snowfalls and bring back the "heavy snow warning" Expand We used to have snow advisories as well but they decided winter weather or winter storm covers everything unless there's a lot of ice accretion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 1:17 PM, Great Snow 1717 said: every time I hear the name Heather I think of this movie.. Expand Oh so this is how they pick these names! Color me shocked lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 Light snow started here a few minutes ago. Radar indicating we might get some accumulating snow soon, unless the snow shield keeps drying up as it nears this area (we still have only 65% humidity and a 20F dewpoint, reflecting dry air still in place). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 On 1/19/2024 at 1:34 PM, LibertyBell said: a few flakes here and there if you squint really hard Expand Our best snow should be between 11 and 3. 20 miles south of me will do much better 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted January 19, 2024 Share Posted January 19, 2024 Since this isnt much of a storm anyway, I’ll take the lesser of the storm and have the kids in school. In the past few weeks, we’ve had too many closures and delays for about 4 inches of snow. It’s just too disruptive to our lives. Snow starting in Westcheter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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