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Jan 15-16 Storm Threat Thread: The Return of Hope??


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Just now, stormtracker said:

Done at 7pm Tuesday  2 to 4 area wide

As I mentioned, a 2-4”er area wide without thermal issues even SE of 95 would be a great win and a nice compromise. Amping it further would be too greedy and get some of us in trouble

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4 hours ago, Buddy1987 said:

Still probably a little too early for the HRRR but damn does it look great. 

Fair point my man. Really hoping in SWVA we can snag some precip. I’m west of the blue ridge so I’m hoping I’m sitting pretty. Won’t know till it’s on the ground though. 

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3 minutes ago, Terpeast said:

As I mentioned, a 2-4”er area wide without thermal issues even SE of 95 would be a great win and a nice compromise. Amping it further would be too greedy and get some of us in trouble

Should be pretty easy to keep up with too, -SN at >.03"/hr liquid.
Snow TV for everyone is a good time.

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Accumulation tonight?

Zone Forecast Product
National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC
1232 PM EST Sun Jan 14 2024

DCZ001-142100-
District of Columbia-
Including the city of Washington
1232 PM EST Sun Jan 14 2024

...WIND ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 5 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON...

.THIS AFTERNOON...Mostly sunny with isolated snow showers. Windy
with highs in the lower 40s. Temperature falling into the mid
30s. West winds 20 to 30 mph with gusts up to 45 mph. Chance of
snow 20 percent.
.TONIGHT...Partly cloudy with a slight chance of snow in the
evening, then cloudy with snow likely after midnight. Snow
accumulation around an inch. Lows in the lower 20s. Northwest
winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph, diminishing to around
5 mph after midnight. Chance of snow 60 percent.
.MARTIN LUTHER KING JR DAY...Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of
snow. Additional snow accumulation around an inch possible. Highs
in the lower 30s. West winds around 5 mph, becoming southeast
around 5 mph in the afternoon.
.MONDAY NIGHT...Snow likely in the evening, then snow after
midnight. Lows in the upper 20s. East winds around 5 mph. Chance
of snow 90 percent.
.TUESDAY...Snow likely in the morning. Highs in the lower 30s.
North winds around 5 mph, becoming northwest 10 to 15 mph in the
afternoon. Chance of snow 60 percent.
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I should make more threads in the future.  I mean since yall give negative superstitious credit, might as well get the fake good credit.

What we need to do is create threads and then a second thread when everything goes to shit on models at the day 4-5 range. That’s the key!


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2 minutes ago, yoda said:

Accumulation tonight?

Zone Forecast Product
National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC
1232 PM EST Sun Jan 14 2024

DCZ001-142100-
District of Columbia-
Including the city of Washington
1232 PM EST Sun Jan 14 2024

...WIND ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 5 PM EST THIS AFTERNOON...

.THIS AFTERNOON...Mostly sunny with isolated snow showers. Windy
with highs in the lower 40s. Temperature falling into the mid
30s. West winds 20 to 30 mph with gusts up to 45 mph. Chance of
snow 20 percent.
.TONIGHT...Partly cloudy with a slight chance of snow in the
evening, then cloudy with snow likely after midnight. Snow
accumulation around an inch. Lows in the lower 20s. Northwest
winds 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph, diminishing to around
5 mph after midnight. Chance of snow 60 percent.
.MARTIN LUTHER KING JR DAY...Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of
snow. Additional snow accumulation around an inch possible. Highs
in the lower 30s. West winds around 5 mph, becoming southeast
around 5 mph in the afternoon.
.MONDAY NIGHT...Snow likely in the evening, then snow after
midnight. Lows in the upper 20s. East winds around 5 mph. Chance
of snow 90 percent.
.TUESDAY...Snow likely in the morning. Highs in the lower 30s.
North winds around 5 mph, becoming northwest 10 to 15 mph in the
afternoon. Chance of snow 60 percent.

What are they looking at?

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Even has the “surprise” mount [mention=2304]psuhoffman[/mention]to Catoctins jack. And the mini-jack over DCA will obvs get displaced to MBY. Let’s ride.

Seems like a realistic depiction accounting for better lift / temps up this way but having the qpf jack closer to 95. Agreed though. More likely you see that 3-4” in that secondary jack than DC metro but who knows.


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ALEET!
DT’s jaw just dropped to the floor 
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Didn’t DT give up on this 24 hours ago? I told y’all. It’s the weather version of the Jim Cramer effect… predict the opposite of what DT&JB predict and you’re typically golden. “My jaw is on the floor. How dare models show snow in DC and BAL”. Gimme a break DT
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4 minutes ago, jayyy said:


Didn’t DT give up on this 24 hours ago? I told y’all. It’s the weather version of the Jim Cramer effect… predict the opposite of what DT&JB predict and you’re typically golden. “My jaw is on the floor. How dare models show snow in DC and BAL”. Gimme a break DT

ummm most people in here drew the same conclusion only 24 hours earlier than DT.  check the panic room

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damn. Bullish

Agree with this forecast wholeheartedly. Think they did a good job being patient and letting things unfold before jumping the gun in either direction. Models have been consistent showing that “tongue” of enhanced qpf from DC NE up to BAL, so this looks spot on. I really don’t think temps will be an issue at all for 99% of us. Virga is annoying but it will cool the column. Dynamic cooling should fairly easily win out. Doubt the metros see much mixing, if any, especially in Baltimore.
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Interesting that the two previous storms were drought-busters and we finally get the cold and the heavy moisture is nowhere to be found. lol. Where's atmospheric memory when ya need it?

Speaking of Richmond, VA getting more, I recall the last 5 years or so, that area jackpoting more than usual or at least getting more snow than DC. 

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1 hour ago, Terpeast said:

Some models say tomorrow midday, others delay it until tomorrow evening. Hard to say, depends on where that narrow band aims and when the column gets saturated enough

This event is quite a bit more disorganized than most of ours.  
 

hopefully the mesos will help us hone in on the details including banding 

We’re obv not getting 0.3” evenly distributed over 10 hours.   

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ummm most people in here drew the same conclusion only 24 hours earlier than DT.  check the panic room

I certainly didn’t, nor did deck pic and several others who kept commenting on the fact that things could easily trend better once we got to Saturday and beyond. When things are looking too progressive / flat, there’s typically room for things to trend in our direction. It’s when we need things to be less amped / further south / colder that things don’t pan out. 9/10 times, models correct NW / more amped as we get inside the day 4 range.

There are a ton of people in here who get pretty emotional over whether or not it snows. That’s fine because 99% of them are weenies, not professional meteorologists. What you’re saying doesn’t help DT’s case at all. It makes it worse. See how LWX / legit Mets like MillvilleWx handle forecasts? They update us with the facts and likelihoods. They don’t fully commit until they have all relevant / current information. They don’t have wild emotional swings on twitter and their vlogs. I’m speaking to the fact that DT doesn’t stick to his convictions based on meteorology / the setup we have going into a storm. He swings with the models. Anyone can read the GFS / Euro snow output from 7 days out and cheer or pout about it as they change. It’s one thing if we do it. It’s another if Mets with a following do it. People rely on these mets for forecasts to make life decisions. Just think there’s a professional way to go about it, and DT doesn’t exemplify that.
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