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January 15th-17th 2024 Arctic Blast/Snow Event


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The 12z EPS ensembles are split between the more NW path, the path directly across the state, and the more southerly path shown at 12z.  If the Euro is right, northern MS, northern AL, and Chattanooga are in the ballgame.  Good trends for them.  Chattanooga has certainly waited a long time for some snow.  If they get it, I will be super happy for them!  The 12z EPS does lend some support to the operational.

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47 minutes ago, PowellVolz said:

Looks like the storm moving through tomorrow has trended north just going by the SPC severe weather forecast 54c772e4a3177b2d3c6d04af23feeffc.gif


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Why you should  not trust anything especially next week :)To many moving parts and the storm itself isnt even on the west coast yet

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National Weather Service Nashville TN
210 PM CST Thu Jan 11 2024

...New SHORT TERM, LONG TERM...

.SHORT TERM...
(This afternoon through Friday Night)
Issued at 203 PM CST Thu Jan 11 2024

If you stepped outside, you`d think it was March. 50s across the
board this afternoon and with plenty of sun and a little breeze, I
think we`ve been able to mix down some of the dry air we saw in this
morning`s 12Z OHX sounding. Dew points have struggled to get to 30
degrees across the northern 2/3 of the mid-state. In any event, if
you haven`t been able to get out and enjoy today, give `er a try.
Things will go downhill quickly starting tonight.

By midnight tonight, a very sharp trough over the center of the
country will develop a surface low near Arklatex that is expected to
bomb out as it moves into the Ohio Valley tomorrow afternoon. This
is going to cause a multitude of issues across the region, from
severe weather to extremely strong gradient winds. Let`s start with
the gradient winds, because in my estimation, this is going to cause
the biggest problems. Winds will start to ramp up by midnight
tonight, especially for our counties west of I-65. By sunrise, as
our Wind Advisory goes into affect, southeast gusts of 30-45 mph
will likely be occurring across the whole area. Peak gust time looks
to be in the noon to 3 pm time frame. Gusts of 40 to 50 mph with
occasional gusts to 55 mph are going to be possible. Much discussion
was had about the potential for issuing a High Wind Warning,
however, in coordination with most surrounding offices, we`ve held
off on issuing that product and stuck with a very high-end Wind
Advisory. In any event, these winds are going to cause downed trees
and scattered power outages across Middle TN. The stink about this
is the cold air that filters in behind the system. It`s not the
coldest of what we`re going to see in the next 4-6 days, but if you
don`t have power, it`s going to feel like it. Be sure to pay extra
special attention to vulnerable populations tomorrow.

On top of the gradient winds, there is at least a low-end severe
weather threat. We talked about this yesterday and honestly, not
much has changed. Our warm sector GREATLY struggles to develop
tomorrow morning with dew points barely reaching 50 degrees. This is
going to keep CAPE values at 100 J/Kg or lower. Now, if we do end up
getting a bigger push of dew points, then yes, the severe threat
will go up -- and with helicity values where they are, we can`t
ignore the possibility of an isolated spin-up. The more likely
scenario is the potential for any convection to enhance the
straight line wind threat that we already have, even outside
thunderstorms. Look for a weak line of convection to start moving
across the TN River mid-morning tomorrow and it should exit the
Plateau around 3-5 pm in the afternoon.

Strap in. We`re not done yet.
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.LONG TERM...
(Saturday through next Thursday)
Issued at 203 PM CST Thu Jan 11 2024

So we get beyond tomorrow, and again, let`s not look past tomorrow,
as the wind threat is likely to cause significant impacts, but then
we have to start looking at the snow potential Sunday night into the
first half of the week. Models are still not in great agreement
regarding how this is going to unfold. I think I can say, we`re
still very confident it`s going to snow Sunday night. Placement of
the highest amounts still look like they are going to be along and
north of I-40, especially in the Land Between the Lakes area.
However, now the latest suite of models wants to stretch out the
snow potential from not just Sunday night, but into Monday and
Tuesday, as well. Sunday night into Monday would have the higher
totals, but a secondary wave could bring additional snow to the
area, especially east of I-65 on Tuesday. On the whole, the
probability of exceeding 1 inch anywhere in Middle TN is something
like 60-80% across most of the area. But as we start talking about
the potential for anyone getting 3 inches or more (Winter Storm
Warning criteria), now we`re falling into the 30-40% category and
that`s been relatively consistent over the last couple of days.
Hopefully by Saturday, we`ll have a better grasp on how things are
looking for Sunday night into Monday.

Now the cold. As the snow comes to an end, a CP airmass will drive
into the mid-south and TN Valley. This is going to bring sub-
freezing temperatures to the area for an extended period of time.
Teens and single digits will be pretty common every morning next
week, with Tuesday and Wednesday mornings looking the coldest. Low
to mid single digits are still progged. Much like Sunday after the
winds die down and colder air enters the picture, keeping an eye on
vulnerable populations is going to be imperative mid-week as
afternoon highs under 32 degrees look probable.
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3 minutes ago, TellicoWx said:

Big question is..."Is the Euro up to its old bias of holding too much back with 2nd = squash city?" *insert preferred cliff hangar music"...Stay tuned to tomorrow's adventure of "As the models flippity-flop to find out more.

That is a good point.  The UKMET went to St Louis.  The Euro went to Savannah.  

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1 minute ago, Carvers Gap said:

That is a good point.  The UKMET went to St Louis.  The Euro went to Savannah.  

Yeah this system should bring back many happy memories and old scars of model days from long ago...finally we have a good Ole fashioned thread the needle for glory or bust system lol...Funny how so much tech has changed in past 10-15 yrs, but here in the weather modeling world things have stayed the same.

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5 minutes ago, TellicoWx said:

Yeah this system should bring back many happy memories and old scars of model days from long ago...finally we have a good Ole fashioned thread the needle for glory or bust system lol...Funny how so much tech has changed in past 10-15 yrs, but here in the weather modeling world things have stayed the same.

I noticed on the Euro that the blocking low in eastern Canada was maybe a bit more south and west.  That interaction drove the boundary further south which in turn squashed the potential winter storm.  That trend was noticeable early in the run.  That was a big difference from 0z.

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18 minutes ago, Carvers Gap said:

I noticed on the Euro that the blocking low in eastern Canada was maybe a bit more south and west.  That interaction drove the boundary further south which in turn squashed the potential winter storm.  That trend was noticeable early in the run.

At least we still have the storm tomorrow to run into and change up that big low. 

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I assume that all modeling must be verifying too cold lately. MRX states it's confident highs will be in the 30s on Monday and has my high at 34 degrees in the point forecast. No model besides the Canadian has me out of the 20s on Monday. Their current call is for the highest totals to be around 2 inches on the Northern Plateau and SWVA areas that border Kentucky. I guess the Euro spooked them. My forecast did change from snow showers wording to just snow wording. Which signifies confidence of a steady snow event in my experience. They did earlier discuss only issuing WWA advisory products for this event and with new criteria for warnings going down from 4 inches to 3 inches, them saying 2 inches makes sense.

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3 minutes ago, John1122 said:

I assume that all modeling must be verifying too cold lately. MRX states it's confident highs will be in the 30s on Monday and has my high at 34 degrees in the point forecast. No model besides the Canadian has me out of the 20s on Monday. Their current call is for the highest totals to be around 2 inches on the Northern Plateau and SWVA areas that border Kentucky. I guess the Euro spooked them. My forecast did change from snow showers wording to just snow wording. Which signifies confidence of a steady snow event in my experience. They did earlier discuss only issuing WWA advisory products for this event and with new criteria for warnings going down from 4 inches to 3 inches, them saying 2 inches makes sense.

Maybe going with a NBM approach? That seems common from WFOs at this range. NBM has always seemed very conservative to me for a supposedly blended model. 

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