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Jan Medium/Long Range Disco 2: Total Obliteration is Coming


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1 hour ago, psuhoffman said:

Frankly we've already had the pattern since Xmas...just not the snow yet 

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part of me wants this to fail to see the ultimate winter will never happen again post for you and a total meltdown of the ages

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2 hours ago, winter_warlock said:

23 members have me getting accumulated  snows in central md. Not bad for 6 days out. Im sure it will change a few times lol

i dont see many members that show rain. Its more snow and ice or nothing than rain

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One minor detail I noticed. I’m a sicko and like to compare “good” outcome runs “bad” outcome runs for snow. Today what I noticed is that the model runs that are better for us tend to have these two shortwaves phasing better. The farther apart these two the worst the outcome ends up being for our region fwiw. c4277adece0c4860f9f5cc85b4034268.jpg


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49 minutes ago, Deck Pic said:

true, but then it kind of comes down to expectations.  And understandably yours are generally higher given you average 200%+ of my climo.   I'm not really a HECS chaser.  I'd lock in a 3-4" front end thump just to get on the board

Why does everyone think I’d be unhappy with 3-4” of snow?  Maybe if it was a fringe and 20 miles away got 12”+ then ya that kinda sucks. But I was thrilled with that 3-4” storm I got in December!  
 

When I’m analyzing patterns my goals are big. I can’t control anything so why not look for signals for big storms?  But that doesn’t mean I’m unhappy if we get a regular snow. And it’s not like we’re getting those anyways. It’s not been snowing at all lately. 
 

My issue with progressive waves isn’t that they aren’t a HECS. It’s that they typically have a narrow zone of snow and the patterns that produce them are rarely going to lead to a snowy season. Rooting to get lucky with those is basically setting our high bar for the season at below average for the region as a whole. Ya maybe someone gets lucky to hit a couple and beat climo but as a whole we don’t get snowy seasons that way. 
 

 

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4 minutes ago, Ji said:

part of me wants this to fail to see the ultimate winter will never happen again post for you and a total meltdown of the ages

Not gonna happen. For the last 7 years every failure has been couched by “but Nina” by the crowd that doesn’t want to acknowledge the “elephant”. Meanwhile we’ve had a Nino and 2 neutral winters in there and they made convenient excuses to dismiss that fact.  I’ve made my case that while the persistent Nina base state is part of this, I’ve never denied that, but more is going on contributing here. 
 

If we have a total fail during a second Nino, one that did couple and produced the pattern we wanted…at that point I don’t have to say anything. “Scoreboard” should be plenty enough. Anyone still in denial isn’t going to be swayed by some novel I write on here so what’s the point? 

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2 minutes ago, CAPE said:

Not sure this is the change we want. More NS interaction overtop a weakening, strung out wave, and higher heights over the Canadian Maritimes.. Kind of a lose-lose. Only another op run though!

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its starting to slip away

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12 minutes ago, Heisy said:

My theory holds, those two pieces I mentioned were farther apart, hence a worst “snow” run. The runs that phases those waves quicker (like 00z euro) allowed spacing between the tpv and main shortwave and end better for us


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Agreed. Euro also brings our sw into the CA/OR border.  GFS has been consistent into Seattle. SW coming into the west coast further south and more phasing of the first system both allow for more separation.

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2 minutes ago, CAPE said:

EPS, the better model, looks pretty good rn.

i know. its just an uneasy feeling when the euro/eps is not in agreement with the GFS. not having a snowstorm for 2 years makes you think of the worst case scenario everytime

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1 minute ago, BristowWx said:

Look at hr 192.  Total dry coast to coast. All four corners.  Maybe that’s just a wipe slate clean reset.  Not often you see that 

lol the southern stream has been non stop since Nov 20 till we finally get cold enough?

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