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Jan Medium/Long Range Disco 2: Total Obliteration is Coming


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Just now, winter_warlock said:

All models are in line except euro... Euro is looking like a drunk uncle lol

Well.   Only 4 days away now. Ud think euro would  get more in line. Hopefully euro puts the tequila bottle down and joins the rest at 06z lol

Not sure I've ever seen this much of a difference between euro and gfs at day 4.

But not sure I've seen models jump so much run to run within 5 days 

Lots of moving pieces for the models to nail down.

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Just now, Ji said:

We really need this event. There is nothing in the pipeline after it

The icon moving into the good guy camp was pretty big imo

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Do you sleep dude??

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9 minutes ago, Ji said:

We really need this event. There is nothing in the pipeline after it

The icon moving into the good guy camp was pretty big imo

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this wasnt really in the pipeline that many days...I rolled back the runs and it didnt look that promising 4 days ago...the pipeline could easily get active after this...we just can't know right now...plus there is the whole convective feedback issue which we can discuss later.

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2 minutes ago, Ji said:

Oh crap...I knew I forgot something


I'm obsessed with digital blue

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We need to convert this digital blue to physical white. Inside 4 days to start time as of the 12z runs with good model consensus outside of the best model in the world :wacko::yikes:

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We need to convert this digital blue to physical white. Inside 4 days to start time as of the 12z runs with good model consensus outside of the best model in the world default_wacko.pngdefault_yikes.png
Yep it's time but Charlie brown and Lucy are equally obsessed with ruining everything

If it was the the other way around and it was euro vs the world it would be very somber on here

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14 minutes ago, Ji said:

Yep it's time but Charlie brown and Lucy are equally obsessed with ruining everything

If it was the the other way around and it was euro vs the world it would be very somber on here

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WPC’s discussion today will be interesting to see how they interpret this euro vs the world scenario. And in my quick glance, the euro op remains an outlier in its own ensemble mean, even though eps has continued to inch weaker/OTS.

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5 minutes ago, WxUSAF said:

WPC’s discussion today will be interesting to see how they interpret this euro vs the world scenario. And in my quick glance, the euro op remains an outlier in its own ensemble mean, even though eps has continued to inch weaker/OTS.

You mean this one?

https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/discussions/hpcdiscussions.php?disc=pmdepd

 

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5 minutes ago, yoda said:

You mean this one?

https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/discussions/hpcdiscussions.php?disc=pmdepd

 

snip from it, reference our storm

Recent models remain agreeable with showing shortwave energy

pivoting through the southern side of the broad and deep trough

serving to form a surface low near the East Coast Tuesday into

Wednesday. 12/18Z and now the 00Z model guidance generally shows

low pressure developing near the Southeast Coast by early Tuesday,

but with some spread in the formation/track that is amplified by

the fact that even relatively small differences would have

considerable sensible weather differences. With the 12/18Z suite

of models, the GEFS and EC mean showed similar low tracks

northward across the western Atlantic and a fairly strong system

reaching New England or the Canadian Maritimes by early Wednesday.

12/18Z GFS runs were most like the means, so favored that cluster

for the WPC forecast. The 12Z and now the 00Z ECMWF deterministic

runs are more offshore where hardly any precipitation is onshore

of the East Coast. This seems unlikely based on other guidance and

the EC ensemble mean and members, but unfortunately the

ECMWF-initialized machine learning models did not seem to run for

the 12Z cycle, so we lack that piece of information that could

help with the model diagnostics. Meanwhile the 12Z CMC showed

reasonable alignment in the track though a bit faster than

preferred, but now the 00Z CMC has a track considerably inland

that would spread rain to some Mid-Atlantic areas. The 00Z GFS

also shows differences from its previous runs, with a dual

structure to the low early Wednesday with some low pressure

hanging near the DelMarVa, and not consolidating until later

Wednesday. Overall, the forecast details remain low confidence as

the storm track spread is still high.

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