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January 6-7 Storm Discussion: we’re due?


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So with the 6 hour wobbles and melancholy I am still at the same place I was Monday but now up to 85% probability of an area wide 3-6” from Camp Springs to Frederick 

I put out my checklist yesterday and will run that down item by item either late tonight or early Friday afternoon

Moving from models to temps and dew points is a stable idea from now and  forward .  Looks like T minus 46 hours to liftoff!

 

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1 minute ago, winter_warlock said:

Well that sucks lol

The fun part is that it keeps trending worse.  Best chance at this point is that either (a) the bleeding stops, and/or (2) cad is underdone.  The upper air pattern is not ideal.  Honestly, looking at it, I wouldn't even think we'd get snow from it, but luckily we have at least some residual cold air to work with.  It'll be interesting to see how the storm ultimately plays out, but I'd be ok with it just simply starting as snow at this point east of the Blue Ridge.

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2 minutes ago, psuhoffman said:

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maybe someday we can get a perfect track…well ok but it’s a Nina we can’t expect…umm never mind. 

Why is it the surface low is ideal, but the mid-levels are a mess?  I don't feel like this is just a "it's just not cold enough" situation.  To me, it seems like we just simply lack blocking due to a consistently messy Pacific and/or Atlantic...flip a coin.

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Just now, 87storms said:

Why is it the surface low is ideal, but the mid-levels are a mess?  I don't feel like this is just a "it's just not cold enough" situation.  To me, it seems like we just simply lack blocking due to a consistently messy Pacific and/or Atlantic...flip a coin.

Both sides of the same coin. No blocking and too fast pacific

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Just now, Terpeast said:

Other than the euro, the bleeding has stopped. 

For now…

The euro got better. Everyone’s individual backyard snow map may not have but by increasing the precip and coverage, I think it upped our chances. The 850’s don’t really jump for most. So heavier precip, the low fees to start and the cold to start combined with heavy precip might just do the trick. Fingers crossed

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2 minutes ago, WinterWxLuvr said:

The euro got better. Everyone’s individual backyard snow map may not have but by increasing the precip and coverage, I think it upped our chances. The 850’s don’t really jump for most. So heavier precip, the low fees to start and the cold to start combined with heavy precip might just do the trick. Fingers crossed

Just checked, its a smidge better. Probably noise

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3 minutes ago, WinterWxLuvr said:

The euro got better. Everyone’s individual backyard snow map may not have but by increasing the precip and coverage, I think it upped our chances. The 850’s don’t really jump for most. So heavier precip, the low fees to start and the cold to start combined with heavy precip might just do the trick. Fingers crossed

Beet juice already down on 66 near centreville...:clown:

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12 minutes ago, WinterWxLuvr said:

Todays has been at worst a hold the line day. Actually I think we’ve seen some positives. Perhaps this trends our way as we move forward 

I do think perhaps we've reached the end of how bad this can degrade.  The track isn't actually trending at all...its just the mid level thermals are trending warmer.  There is likely a limit to how far NW of the low the mid level warm layer can get and I think we are close to that now.  

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1 minute ago, aldie 22 said:

But it's cold enough close enough, what else other than the boogie man is causing this to not be an all snow event?

Not really! Look at our big storms and check the temperature of cities north and west of us.  Saturday morning is barely below freezing in Chicago Detroit buffalo and saranac lake.  It’s just not cold enough.  

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