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Mid to Long Range Discussion ~ 2024


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 The very inaccurate extended models fwiw suggest stupid cold vs late March normals to occur in the SE after midmonth similar to El Niños of 1881, 1885, 1906, 1914, 1915, 1926, 1940, 1983. This would be 2-3 weeks after the upcoming strongest of season strat 10 mb wind reversal. The SE is way overdue for Nino late Mar stupidity. Look how often it occurred through 1940. As the great philosopher once said, winter ain’t over til it’s over.

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 Model consensus is suggesting a short chilly period in one week and a potentially colder period in about two weeks (near/just after St. Patrick’s Day).

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13 hours ago, GaWx said:

 Model consensus is suggesting a short chilly period in one week and a potentially colder period in about two weeks (near/just after St. Patrick’s Day).

At which point a lot of this forum will average 65+ degrees

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18 minutes ago, ncjoaquin said:

Ha! Ha! I'll take responsibility.

Looks like even long term it's gonna be a wet month. On a serious note, wouldn't be surprised if we do end up with a hot and dry summer if the La nina starts to form, so can't complain too much besides not being able to golf on my days off lol.

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On 3/4/2024 at 9:30 AM, GaWx said:

 Model consensus is suggesting a short chilly period in one week and a potentially colder period in about two weeks (near/just after St. Patrick’s Day).

 No change from the above. Ups and downs with a short chill early next week and a potentially longer and colder period starting around St. Patrick’s Day. The St. Patrick’s cold could be intense for mid to late March. Hard freezes in much of the SE wouldn’t be a shock as we will have a very weak SPV through the rest of the month favoring -NAO/-AO and mid to late March El Niños of 1881, 1885, 1906, 1914, 1915, 1926, 1940, and 1983 had hard freezes.

 This obviously could be overdone but the 12Z Euro (AI) has 850s WAY BN even based on 1981-2010 climo with below 0C well down into FL! Will stupidity become a reality? We could very well see the coldest (in the absolutes, not just in the anomalies) since Jan 21st-22nd! Stay tuned ITT for further updates as they become available.

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 I thought this thread and others similar to it are supposed to be for forecast discussion of any aspect of wx that any poster wants to post about rather than being restricted to just discussion of wx a particular member reading the posts wants. Am I mistaken?

 Anyway, whether or not any particular member wants or cares about potentially the coldest period in 2 months near and just after St. Patrick’s Day, I’m going to continue to post about it, regardless, whenever I have the chance and feel like it. Otherwise, why does this thread even exist? I find many aspects of wx interesting.

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March is going to end up above average like almost every month does. There will be a couple brief cool spells with frost but it will be back in the 70s quickly. Next week will be mostly 60s and 70s after the brief cool shot Sunday and Monday. St Patrick's day could be 2 or 3 days and a bit cooler than this one but nothing too anomalous and certainly not a snowy look. Just your typical NW flow. 

 

We can talk about it all we want but there's really nothing remarkable about the next 2 or 3 weeks (or since January 2022) except some slight flooding risk. If the trough digs enough around St Patty's there could be some minor NW flow snow about 3K. The rest is Bradford pears, daffodils, and pollen season.

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Here is a novel  idea….if you don’t want to read/hear about, stay off the board.  Good grief, the guy is just discussing what he sees, and what the models might be showing.  This whole nonsense of ‘rooting for cold weather’ is utterly ridiculous.  Guess what, the weather is going to do what it’s going to do, regardless of what we ‘root’ for.

 

 

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 Yesterday’s was the coldest Euro Weeklies map for 3/18-25 since the first one issued. See image below. That doesn’t equate to wintry precip. even if it were to verify. It means a cool period overall would be on the way, including frost and freeze potential. In the meantime a short cool period is on the way prior to then early next week. In addition, the last week of this month has been looking cool on each run though it wouldn’t be as cool per how it is on the run.

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Plants are really putting out now and will do so even more next week. Some things are going to get killed for sure. Hopefully peaches and apples aren't too far along in the upstate. 

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2 minutes ago, wncsnow said:

Plants are really putting out now and will do so even more next week. Some things are going to get killed for sure. Hopefully peaches and apples aren't too far along in the upstate. 

Yeah I've got trees in my area that are budding for green new growth.  I feel bad for them. 

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41 minutes ago, Met1985 said:

Yeah I've got trees in my area that are budding for green new growth.  I feel bad for them. 

Dogwoods, maples, and lot of other are blooming here.  It's amazing how the grass has went from brown to green and growing in days.

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6 minutes ago, wncsnow said:

Dogwoods, maples, and lot of other are blooming here.  It's amazing how the grass has went from brown to green and growing in days.

My weeds sure are happy! Haven't really had any significant drought here since moving here in 2018. I like the rainy periods this time of year. If nothing else, it keeps the house comfortable without having to run the AC

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1 hour ago, StantonParkHoya said:

Still somewhat skeptical we get another hard freeze this year Raleigh eastward

Weather has been awesome this spring. I don’t mind the wet especially knowing we’ll be begging for it in a couple months, nothing has been prolonged rains either. Honestly it feels like a normal spring, unlike these delayed “winters” of the last couple years

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17 hours ago, StantonParkHoya said:

RDU never gets below 40 on the 6z GFS through 384

Same with the 18Z GFS it appears. The Euro suites have generally been colder. We’ll see which comes closer. 

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